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The more powerful consoles become, and the more I think about the situation, it boggles my mind as to why people get excited about new consoles being powerful when they can purchase gaming PCs that already exceed the power new consoles will bring us. It feels so weird to see "pretty good" PC specs and get excited over them just because it's a "video game console."

Yet I am also feeling those perplexing feelings when we see new information like this. I confuse even myself. Hmmm....



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wfz said:
The more powerful consoles become, and the more I think about the situation, it boggles my mind as to why people get excited about new consoles being powerful when they can purchase gaming PCs that already exceed the power new consoles will bring us. It feels so weird to see "pretty good" PC specs and get excited over them just because it's a "video game console."

Yet I am also feeling those perplexing feelings when we see new information like this. I confuse even myself. Hmmm....

Powerful gaming PCs yes, but without games designed for all that power.

Next gen consoles will bring us games and game engines that utilize all that power.



Boy I hope the next Xbox looks something close to that!



JEMC said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

I'd really appreciate if you could use your old 360 HDD and memory cards on the new system, mainly 'cause I can't access the e-mail address that I used for my live account and wouldn't be able to transfer it over to the new system otherwise :P

Wouldn't expect it though.

Given that you can't use your old xbox360 HDD in the new slim 360, the chances of using them in the nextbox are... small.

Am I the only one that finds odd their speculation that it will be called Xbox, just like the first one?

From the harware, that 4 core/16 threads CPU can only mean an IBM CPU, something that goes against the latest AMD rumors, and why do they need a TV input? Will it be the ultimate media machine by also being able to record your TV shows?

I doubt AMD would be looking to sell itself off if Microsoft was going the way of AMD for the CPU. 

The fact that Sony appears to be AND that AMD is looking to sell itself off, not good in my book.

Sorry - not trying to get things off track.



zumnupy10 said:
Can't 2013 come faster ?

March,April and May will be amazing.

It won't be announced until June at E3.



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Even if it's only announced in june at E3. We will have info leaks before that.

Besides if you read the original article in the OXM, it says we will see the new console before June.

 



wfz said:
The more powerful consoles become, and the more I think about the situation, it boggles my mind as to why people get excited about new consoles being powerful when they can purchase gaming PCs that already exceed the power new consoles will bring us. It feels so weird to see "pretty good" PC specs and get excited over them just because it's a "video game console."

Yet I am also feeling those perplexing feelings when we see new information like this. I confuse even myself. Hmmm....

Because PC's mostly just get console ports, maybe with minor improvements. Very few games are actually targeted at high end PC (if any).

So devs target PS3/360, then port over to PC.

Lets say Durango is 10X as powerful as 360. You dont find devs now targeting a baseline with 10X the power exciting?

PC graphics will not take the next big jump until consoles do, in other words. No matter how much raw power they have.

Also, PC's are incredibly innefficient compared to consoles. They often struggle with lowly 360/PS3 ports despite having up to 20X as much raw power.



fallen said:
wfz said:
The more powerful consoles become, and the more I think about the situation, it boggles my mind as to why people get excited about new consoles being powerful when they can purchase gaming PCs that already exceed the power new consoles will bring us. It feels so weird to see "pretty good" PC specs and get excited over them just because it's a "video game console."

Yet I am also feeling those perplexing feelings when we see new information like this. I confuse even myself. Hmmm....

Because PC's mostly just get console ports, maybe with minor improvements. Very few games are actually targeted at high end PC (if any).

So devs target PS3/360, then port over to PC.

Lets say Durango is 10X as powerful as 360. You dont find devs now targeting a baseline with 10X the power exciting?

PC graphics will not take the next big jump until consoles do, in other words. No matter how much raw power they have.

Also, PC's are incredibly innefficient compared to consoles. They often struggle with lowly 360/PS3 ports despite having up to 20X as much raw power.

Very nice reply, and, if I may add, consoles are looking to replace other devices in our living room and, despite PCs being able to achieve the same features, only console manufacturers seem to be able to get there [PC associated brands, even if coordinated, would be unavailable to catch up in terms of perception this late in he industries' developments]

So in the end, PC and consoles are not competing against each other, so consoles do not necessarily need to position themselves below the PC, as long as other needs (video/music/web capture/distribution/playback) are being filled.

only Apple should be able to enter the battle for the living room and I am not sure they can un-focus from laptops, phones and tablets in time



fallen said:
wfz said:
The more powerful consoles become, and the more I think about the situation, it boggles my mind as to why people get excited about new consoles being powerful when they can purchase gaming PCs that already exceed the power new consoles will bring us. It feels so weird to see "pretty good" PC specs and get excited over them just because it's a "video game console."

Yet I am also feeling those perplexing feelings when we see new information like this. I confuse even myself. Hmmm....

Because PC's mostly just get console ports, maybe with minor improvements. Very few games are actually targeted at high end PC (if any).

So devs target PS3/360, then port over to PC.

Lets say Durango is 10X as powerful as 360. You dont find devs now targeting a baseline with 10X the power exciting?

PC graphics will not take the next big jump until consoles do, in other words. No matter how much raw power they have.

Also, PC's are incredibly innefficient compared to consoles. They often struggle with lowly 360/PS3 ports despite having up to 20X as much raw power.

I wanted to say the same thing, but I was too lazy. Thanks! :D



The curves won't have that wide of a radius. That takes up too much internal space. A narrower curve would allow for a much better fit on the main PC board.

It won't have covered USB slots either. They're too central to the modern console, they require engineering that is expensive, and you can effectively provide them in a sleek form without hiding them behind a door.

Finally, the Blu-Ray drive won't be slot. While it's sleek and pretty, and my personal preference, slot drives are more expensive than their tray counterparts. There is no distinct advantage to a slot drive, just aesthetics.

I'm not convinced it'll have that design, despite their confidence. First, to put a HDD on the top of the machine in a vertical position is just screaming bad design. I also think any means of standing it upright will be integrated, rather than a separate feature.

I do like the integrated vent. I just don't think it would be sufficient to keep the console properly ventilated. There is going to have to be a place to have large vents to draw air in, which this seems to be missing.