Also I know what your thinking "But the most recent numbers have them paying."


Although... not the MOST recent numbers as it turns out.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/the-map-that-proves-red-staters-use-the-safety-net-too.php

Now I don't know how 2011 and 2012 have worked but.... as it is in this data, Texas is one of very few states pulling their weight anymore.   I mean... just look at how few states are under 1 dollar here. 

Yeah. What'd you take me for, a Grover?

Also, one final note on the subject is that the correlation is a LOT more understandable when you think about it.

That is, that Conservative states take in more then they pay on average.

Public policy belief is based largely on local conditions.

The thing is, poor people aren't a majority in any state, let alone welfare recipients.(to my knowledge)

In the South there are more poor people due to essentially the South never bouncing back fully from the Civil War.

In a place by Mississippi, people see way more poor. Way more then they could ever hope to take care of using their own money (hence why they receive money) hence the situation looks worse then it is.

Meanwhile some Demcoratic States like Road Island see fewer poor people, and as such support the saftey net because it seems like we could easily take care of these people. Making the situation look rosier then it is.

While others like California see a lot of poor, but also see a lot of super rich people due to hollywood, silicon valley and a lot of other things... and overestimate the power and number of the super rich.


Myself, I don't think we should be cutting benefits to people, reform the hell out of the system so that we waste less money in administration by having dozens and dozens of welfare administrations, but keep funding the same or near it, and hopefully increase benefits.


However, that's been a hard position to keep since moving to Nevada where the poor are more numerous and what I think likely has to have the highest homelessness rate in the country. Partly due to just the number, and partly due to there just being so many people who seem to be poor out of choices. (ex, the Crystal Meth Users that constantly come into where i work to gamble away their last few dollars.

If I offended with my intensity, it was not my intention so sorry if I did. I probably focused more on that because it just stood out to me. I get tired of seeing that narrative all of the time in leftist circles. I am around them frequently and have to always try to correct their thinking. A lot of times I see a leftist minded individual talk about commonly agreed position and then they will stick in a quick cliche about "backwards thinking conservatives" and then sometimes when confronted they roll it off like just an unoffensive joke. It just seemed like another added shot to conservatives that most are just racist. I think I was feeling a bit anal that day anyways.

You look more like a Hector. I mean, that is you in your avi right?

OT: Mississippi can go. All they offer is hate, laziness, hate, humidity, hate, horrible healthcare, hate, heat,college football, and hate.

That should be more correct.  I also think that teams like Tennessee Volunteers and the Ole Miss Rebels should be forced to change their names due to getting their asses kicked in the Civil War.

I dunno why embeding youtube never works for me.

^This, and just all around Sore Losers.  I have never seen such ridiculousness from adults.

This is USA politics we are talking about here. Where instead of working together we throw first grader insults to those that might have a different view.

Me either.