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fighter on 12 November 2012
pezus said:
fighter said:
pezus said:

Belittling, which is, as far as I know, against the rules. Are you new to VGC?

haven't been posting as much as you but enough to have noticed facepalms are the norm like everywhere else - thus your "innocence" seeming very very candid

It's a case of double standards. What innocence are you talking about? 

the innocence of being offended by standard gifs - what did you think?



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TruckOSaurus on 12 November 2012
pezus said:

It doesn't focus on the platforming aspect though, and if you enjoy creating things or discovering new things everyday LBP is very good. Some people play LBP for a few minutes and judge it based on that. I'm not saying you did, but LBP is just so much more than jumping.

LBP could easily have been my favorite game ever. I mean the prospect of a ever growing platformer with new challenges popping everyday was so promising but they fucked it up by making Sackboy control like shit which is the single most important thing in a platformer.



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Jay520 on 12 November 2012
amp316 said:

Once again, I am saying that you should not ask to be called different if you want to be compared.  I don't know how this doesn't make sense.

But you have to be different in order to form a comparison. The essence of a comparison is to observe the differences. If there are no differences, then there is no point in comparison.



amp316 on 12 November 2012
Jay520 said:
amp316 said:

Once again, I am saying that you should not ask to be called different if you want to be compared.  I don't know how this doesn't make sense.

But you have to be different in order to form a comparison. The essence of a comparison is to observe the differences. If there are no differences, then there is no point in comparison.

Fine, then let's compare CoD with Flower since they're different.



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sperrico87 on 12 November 2012

I'm having trouble reading the thread title. What's with the Too's? I don't understand it at all.



 

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Jay520 on 12 November 2012
amp316 said:
Jay520 said:
amp316 said:

Once again, I am saying that you should not ask to be called different if you want to be compared.  I don't know how this doesn't make sense.

But you have to be different in order to form a comparison. The essence of a comparison is to observe the differences. If there are no differences, then there is no point in comparison.

Fine, then let's compare CoD with Flower since they're different.


Well no, there needs to be a balance between similarities and differences. My point is a game can be compared to another game while also being different. For example,  Forza is definitely different than Gran Turismo, yet they are still compared, often on the basis of their differences.



sperrico87 on 12 November 2012
pezus said:
sperrico87 said:
I'm having trouble reading the thread title. What's with the Too's? I don't understand it at all.

It's saying PSABR is a "me too" game from Sony (SSB clone), and asking why they didn't create another "me too" game that is a SMB clone.


Ah. Gotcha



 

amp316 on 12 November 2012
Jay520 said:
amp316 said:
Jay520 said:
amp316 said:

Once again, I am saying that you should not ask to be called different if you want to be compared.  I don't know how this doesn't make sense.

But you have to be different in order to form a comparison. The essence of a comparison is to observe the differences. If there are no differences, then there is no point in comparison.

Fine, then let's compare CoD with Flower since they're different.


Well no, there needs to be a balance between similarities and differences. My point is a game can be compared to another game while also being different. For example,  Forza is definitely different than Gran Turismo, yet they are still compared, often on the basis of their differences.

Of course we won't compare CoD and Flower because that's silly, but my point is that SMB and LBP should be compared since they are in the same genre.  Mario has been  king of platformers for 30 years, so he's the one everyone is compared to.  I'm not saying that they are identical but to claim that LBP doesn't draw some inspiration from Mario is just crazy.  My point is compare away, but don't try to distance youself at the same time.  



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Jay520 on 12 November 2012
amp316 said:

Of course we won't compare CoD and Flower because that's silly, but my point is that SMB and LBP should be compared since they are in the same genre.  Mario has been  king of platformers for 30 years, so he's the one everyone is compared to.  I'm not saying that they are identical but to claim that LBP doesn't draw some inspiration from Mario is just crazy.  My point is compare away, but don't try to distance youself at the same time.  

That makes sense, but I think the point Pezus was originally trying to make was that LBP isn't a copy/clone of Mario in the same way PABR is a copy/clone of Smash Bros. LBP definitely has similarities with Mario, but less than what PABR has with Smash Bros.



DanneSandin on 12 November 2012
bananaking21 said:
DanneSandin said:
bananaking21 said:
fighter said:
DanneSandin said:
 

 

Recognise yourself much?

I have provided proof that the established game industry as a whole still thinks that SMB is a superior game compared to almost everything. In other words: game journalists thinks that SMB, a 30 year old game, is better than LBP. SMB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LBP. It doesn't matter how old the game is. After 30 years it is still superior to LBP. Fact. Logic.


i second that

please dont try to insult or offend me as i have not insulted or offended anyone in this thread. i would like to point out though that you are clearly just trying to prove that SMB is better then LBP, while my responses where to argue the point i made out while REPLYING TO THE OP. even if the SMB  franchise was better 30 years ago in professionals perception in the time being it is not. LBP has the upper hand and that is why sony didnt make another 2D platforming game, that is the simple answer to the OP's question

If I insulted you, I am sorry. It's just frustrating that you won't acknowledge the fact that professionals STILL thinks that SMB is the better game. With the links I gave you it's painfully clear that professionals still thinks that that game is better/superior to LBP. It's never gonna change. Just admit that it's YOUR opinion that LBP is superior, because I have showed you that the professionals thinks that SMB is better, even though 30 years have past. In 30 more years SMB will still be better thab LBP. You're avoiding what logic and facts I provide, and therefore I post a brick wall.

where did i say SMB wasnt a better game in reviews opinion? im just saying that doesnt matter now, as that game is now 30 years old and doesnt matter (to sony or nintendo) because it doesnt sell systems. the games that sell systems are the games that are coming out now, thats what i was saying.thats why i was comparing the newer games. what matters is what is coming out now. if you must know in my opinion i prefer super mario land on the snes more than LBP, i cant honestly say that that is an objective choice as my memories of super mario land are filled with nostalgia, its probably the first video game i ever played (cant remember i been playing for literally as long as i remember) and i havent played the game for over 15 years. i would have to play the game again. i cant give an objective opinion on which game is better because of that reason. i have to play mario again and only then can i give my personal opinion

When you said that LBP was superior and started to list metacritic scores to back up this claim. If that's not insinuating that LBP is better then I don't know what is! It doesn't matter to the OP, but it DOES matter to your statement that LBP is superior to Super Mario Bros - which it isn't, and even YOU are now opening up to the possibility that SMB is better with the first sentence in your last reply (seen above).

Even if we look past this superior game compared to LBP, what you are saying is that; sales matters. "the games that sell systems are the games that are coming out now, thats what i was saying.thats why i was comparing the newer games. what matters is what is coming out now"<---- your words. And by this statement we can logically assume that sales matters. NSMB sold more than all of LBP games put together. It's therefore superior.



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