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TruckOSaurus on 09 November 2012

I'll take the test. Here's the characters, I knew about for each game at the time of release:

Super Smash Bros.: Mario, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus, Yoshi, Kirby, Fox, Pikachu, Luigi and Jigglypuff so 10/12 or 83,3%

PSASBR: Big Daddy, Cole, Dante, Evil Cole, Fat Princess, Heihachi, Kratos, Nariko, Nathan Drake, Parappa, Raiden, Ratchet & Clank, SackBoy, Sweet Tooth 14/20 or 70%

So Smash wins in terms of recognition. Also most of the characters I've listed from Smash, I've come to know because I've played the games they were in (except for Pikachu and Jigglypuff because I think that at the moment Smash Bros. launched, I only knew them from the anime series).

With PSASBR, there's a lot of characters I know only because I've been frequenting this forum or because I only tried a demo of their game (Big Daddy, Cole, Evil Cole, Fat Princess, Nariko, Parappa( best demo ever!, Sweet Tooth).

So for me personally, the PSASBR roster is less compelling but I don't care because in the end what I wanted first and foremost was a Smash-like game and that's what I'm getting.

 

 



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M.U.G.E.N on 09 November 2012
TruckOSaurus said:

I'll take the test. Here's the characters, I knew about for each game at the time of release:

Super Smash Bros.: Mario, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus, Yoshi, Kirby, Fox, Pikachu, Luigi and Jigglypuff so 10/12 or 83,3%

PSASBR: Big Daddy, Cole, Dante, Evil Cole, Fat Princess, Heihachi, Kratos, Nariko, Nathan Drake, Parappa, Raiden, Ratchet & Clank, SackBoy, Sweet Tooth 14/20 or 70%

So Smash wins in terms of recognition. Also most of the characters I've listed from Smash, I've come to know because I've played the games they were in (except for Pikachu and Jigglypuff because I think that at the moment Smash Bros. launched, I only knew them from the anime series).

With PSASBR, there's a lot of characters I know only because I've been frequenting this forum or because I only tried a demo of their game (Big Daddy, Cole, Evil Cole, Fat Princess, Nariko, Parappa( best demo ever!, Sweet Tooth).

So for me personally, the PSASBR roster is less compelling but I don't care because in the end what I wanted first and foremost was a Smash-like game and that's what I'm getting.

 

 

wait you hadn't heard of Jak & Daxter or Sly before?



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binary solo on 10 November 2012
M.U.G.E.N said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I'll take the test. Here's the characters, I knew about for each game at the time of release:

Super Smash Bros.: Mario, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus, Yoshi, Kirby, Fox, Pikachu, Luigi and Jigglypuff so 10/12 or 83,3%

PSASBR: Big Daddy, Cole, Dante, Evil Cole, Fat Princess, Heihachi, Kratos, Nariko, Nathan Drake, Parappa, Raiden, Ratchet & Clank, SackBoy, Sweet Tooth 14/20 or 70%

So Smash wins in terms of recognition. Also most of the characters I've listed from Smash, I've come to know because I've played the games they were in (except for Pikachu and Jigglypuff because I think that at the moment Smash Bros. launched, I only knew them from the anime series).

With PSASBR, there's a lot of characters I know only because I've been frequenting this forum or because I only tried a demo of their game (Big Daddy, Cole, Evil Cole, Fat Princess, Nariko, Parappa( best demo ever!, Sweet Tooth).

So for me personally, the PSASBR roster is less compelling but I don't care because in the end what I wanted first and foremost was a Smash-like game and that's what I'm getting.

 

 

wait you hadn't heard of Jak & Daxter or Sly before?

I didn't think it was possible to know of R&C and to not have heard of J&D.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 10 November 2012
weezy said:

That alone makes the game super wack to me.

 

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The whole point of this game is to popularize the characters you dont know as well as to be celebrate the playable characters Sony makes or has been affiliated with. It worked for Nintendo and if people keep an open mind to Sonys characters it could work for them as well.



ninetailschris on 10 November 2012
RolStoppable said:
binary solo said:

Of that list I only knew Mario, Donkey Kong and Pikachu before I signed up to VGC. I never knew Mario had a gay lover, I never had a clue about Legend of Zelda other than the name of the franchise, I'd never heard of Metroid, I only knew of Pikachu from the cartoon series my kids watched, I didn't even know Pokemon was a game for a long time. I still don't know where Captain Falcon, Fox McCloud and Ness come from.

From the PS All-Stars roster published to date only Parapa the Rapper is an unknown to me.

This is a very sad story. It rarely happens that I feel empathy for anything, but I truly feel sorry for you.

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fillet on 10 November 2012
pezus said:
fillet said:


To simplfy further, is that even possible?

Obviously I'm talking about people who play video games, wtf else would I be talking about?

Most of them would not recognize most of this roster. That means, most PS3 owning gamers too, it's just common sense, these are not recognizable people, it's not hard to put yourself in the mind of the average person that owns a PS3...sheesh. Obviously there are hardcore types who will know all those characters, but the MAJORITY will not know more than half. That is very important for a game.

I mean the appeal of a fighter is it's characters or branding.

This kind of argument is ridiculous. Did you know all the Tekken characters before they released Tekken 1? Do you know them now? Does the majority of PS3 gamers know every Tekken character? The simple answer to all of these questions is: No. But Tekken is still huge.

Please look up the defenition of "all-star". You also took my comment out of context, given the thread title, this is with reference to this game - that it's whole premise is one of all-stars.

Tekken isn't an "all-star" game.

 

Here's the definition from wikipedia in the context of movies...

 

Cinema

The term all-star is often used as a form of publicity gimmick to promote the cast of a movie in which a number of high-profile actors appear, sometimes merely in cameo roles. Well-recognized examples include Grand Hotel (1932), Dinner at Eight (1933), Around the World in 80 Days (1956), Ocean's Eleven (1960), It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (1963), Casino Royale (1967), Murder on the Orient Express (1974), Cop Land (1997), Ocean's 11 (2001). and The Expendables (2010).

 

A game with all-star in the title, should by definition have all-stars in the character Roster. Obviously this the case with PSABR.

 

They should have called it "Playstation A few stars and a mostly characters you've never heard of Battle Royale"

 

Even SSBB didn't have the audacity to use the term "All-Stars", but in fairness it would have actually been very fitting.



miz1q2w3e on 10 November 2012
fillet said:
pezus said:

This kind of argument is ridiculous. Did you know all the Tekken characters before they released Tekken 1? Do you know them now? Does the majority of PS3 gamers know every Tekken character? The simple answer to all of these questions is: No. But Tekken is still huge.

You need to look up the defenition of "all-star".

Tekken isn't an "all-star" game.

lol you just ended this thread

How many of the characters are actually "all-stars", I mean really? ...Drake and Kratos? Even then I'm being generous.



miz1q2w3e on 10 November 2012
pezus said:
miz1q2w3e said:

lol you just ended this thread

How many of the characters are actually "all-stars", I mean really? ...Drake and Kratos? Even then I'm being generous.

The game is called "Playstation All-Stars" and yes, Drake and Kratos are two of the biggest Playstation stars. So no, you're not "being generous".

Ah, you have a point there. My bad.



TeddostheFireKing on 10 November 2012
fillet said:
pezus said:
fillet said:


To simplfy further, is that even possible?

Obviously I'm talking about people who play video games, wtf else would I be talking about?

Most of them would not recognize most of this roster. That means, most PS3 owning gamers too, it's just common sense, these are not recognizable people, it's not hard to put yourself in the mind of the average person that owns a PS3...sheesh. Obviously there are hardcore types who will know all those characters, but the MAJORITY will not know more than half. That is very important for a game.

I mean the appeal of a fighter is it's characters or branding.

This kind of argument is ridiculous. Did you know all the Tekken characters before they released Tekken 1? Do you know them now? Does the majority of PS3 gamers know every Tekken character? The simple answer to all of these questions is: No. But Tekken is still huge.

Please look up the defenition of "all-star". You also took my comment out of context, given the thread title, this is with reference to this game - that it's whole premise is one of all-stars.

Tekken isn't an "all-star" game.

 

Here's the definition from wikipedia in the context of movies...

 

Cinema

The term all-star is often used as a form of publicity gimmick to promote the cast of a movie in which a number of high-profile actors appear, sometimes merely in cameo roles. Well-recognized examples include Grand Hotel (1932), Dinner at Eight (1933), Around the World in 80 Days (1956), Ocean's Eleven (1960), It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (1963), Casino Royale (1967), Murder on the Orient Express (1974), Cop Land (1997), Ocean's 11 (2001). and The Expendables (2010).

 

A game with all-star in the title, should by definition have all-stars in the character Roster. Obviously this the case with PSABR.

 

They should have called it "Playstation A few stars and a mostly characters you've never heard of Battle Royale"

 

Even SSBB didn't have the audacity to use the term "All-Stars", but in fairness it would have actually been very fitting.


At thier peak, Jak & Daxter and Ratchet & Clank reached over 3 million sales. So they are farily popular.  LittleBigPlanet simiarly just reached sales of 5 million and Sackboy himself is often a plushie seen in shops. Tekken is a massive series and DMC is also quite popular. Sure not every series used in PSAS has gang buster sales, but they are appealing to a large fanbase by having so many different characters from different series (Only Good Cole and Evil Cole are from the same series).



fillet on 10 November 2012

All those characters R&C, J&D, Heihachi, Dante, Parappa...Defo "all-stars" no question.

Cole = no chance.
Big daddy = not Playstation.
Raiden = He's rather disliked by 99.9% of any fanbase.
...and a load others, that I can't even remember the names of since reading the full roster again a couple of days ago.

I don't really see why everyone is arguing this point back and forth, it's clear the lineup is crap, and is full of characters to make up the numbers.

Sometimes it's good to take a step back and actually think what you're arguing about.

Question is, are most these characters familiar to most people who play video games regularly. The answer is a simple "no". Why all the indepth posts trying to prove otherwise, if walls of text are needed to prove such a simple point then it's obvious there's much straw clutching and those walls of texts are just trying to "win" an argument through any means.

Is PSABR an "all-star" ensemble? No it is not (about 10 heavy hitters and 10 Z-listers).
Is SSBB an "all-star" ensemble? Yes it is (along with a shed load of Z-listers)

Anyway, won't post again on this, what I've said has already been said a hundred times in a hundred different ways.