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Forums - Politics - Marijuana Prohibition ended in Colorado!

 

Do you think Marijuana should be legal?

Yes. 184 76.35%
 
Yes, for Medicinal purposes only. 21 8.71%
 
No. 32 13.28%
 
Other (post). 4 1.66%
 
Total:241
oldschoolfool on 07 November 2012
SamuelRSmith said:
badgenome said:

The DEA might have something to say about that.

And meanwhile, California is forcing condoms onto porn stars. Booooooo!


I'll copy and paste a post I made about other issues with weed legalization:

 

- Harder to avoid the Government in marijuana trade. Before, if you wanted to buy some weed, you just had to ignore the Government. This is going to become a much harder practice, now that much of the supply will be controlled by the state.

 - It gives cops another reason to search you. These laws do not allow for unlimited weed, they specify certain amounts. Before a cop would stop you before, they had to have some suspicion (taken with a pinch of salt). Now, you're smoking a joint in public, and its legal, but could that be grounds for a search? In case you have more than your allocated amount? Someone obviously possessing some weed is far more likely to hold over the legal limit than somebody who isn't obviously possessing any weed... will that develop into "grounds for reasonable suspicion"?

 - It could turn irregular interstate checkpoints into regular or even permenant warrantless-search bases. Would you even be able to leave Colorado or Washington without going through a TSA checkpoint? All surrounding states will comply with federal law, and continue the complete ban on marijuana, and the Feds are going to want to "penalize" these two states as much as possible.

- It gives the state more of your money. Obviously, marijuana is going to be highly taxed (I believe the Washington bill has a 25% tax at manufacturer, wholesale, and retail), and that money's just going to go into welfare programs and enforcing all those unjust laws.

Any other problems that I've missed?

 

I agree. All it did,was open up another can of worms. Plus you can only have a certain amount. It should all be illegal in my opinion.



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Mr Khan on 07 November 2012

Just run like hell if you ever see someone from the DEA or FBI

Not that i disagree with legalizing, it's just that the war on drugs needs to be addressed at a federal level before meaningful change occurs.



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curl-6 on 07 November 2012
Proclus said:
curl-6 said:
Proclus said:

Coming from a country (Australia)  that recently denied gays/lesbians the right to marry  again, I can't say I'm in the strongest position to judge other countries laws, but that honestly is just too dumb and ridicilious for my comphrehension!

Makes me wonder how many more years until shit in the world actually makes sense and is fair. :/

As a fellow Australian, that shit was a disgrace. What we need to do is kick out all those bigoted old farts with their obsolete politics who make up the vast bulk of the  government.

Couldn't agree more mate, I think it's an absolute joke that our country/continent that has actually moved with the times is still being governed by obsolute politicians with decades old views that simply don't match up with the demands and wishes of it's citizens anymore, they are holding us back, and they really need to go.

Amen. Sadly our next election looks to be a choice between bad and even worse so it doesn't look like things will improve very quickly. Oh well, they'll retire eventually...



ArnoldRimmer on 07 November 2012
SamuelRSmith said:

- It gives the state more of your money. Obviously, marijuana is going to be highly taxed (I believe the Washington bill has a 25% tax at manufacturer, wholesale, and retail), and that money's just going to go into welfare programs and enforcing all those unjust laws.

That must be the most bizarre criticism I've ever heard. Yes, with such laws, the state is going to earn more taxes, and yes, that money will also go into things like school construction, welfare programs etc. But since when is that a bad thing? So far, the very same money went to drug cartels etc. instead. Do you seriously prefer that?



fillet on 07 November 2012
JOKA_ said:

whoa, no way.

 

Edit:  If its no longer illegal, can employers still fire you/deny employment if you have it in your system?


They can fire you if you come to work cained, just like they can fire you if you come to work holding a bottle of whisky and have the hickups.



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Player1x3 on 07 November 2012
curl-6 said:
Proclus said:

Coming from a country (Australia)  that recently denied gays/lesbians the right to marry  again, I can't say I'm in the strongest position to judge other countries laws, but that honestly is just too dumb and ridicilious for my comphrehension!

Makes me wonder how many more years until shit in the world actually makes sense and is fair. :/

As a fellow Australian, that shit was a disgrace. What we need to do is kick out all those bigoted old farts with their obsolete politics who make up the vast bulk of the  government.


Did the people get to vote on the issue?



blkfish92 on 07 November 2012

Well 49 states to go >.>

Sheesh IN AMERICA



           

JOKA_ on 07 November 2012
fillet said:
JOKA_ said:

whoa, no way.

 

Edit:  If its no longer illegal, can employers still fire you/deny employment if you have it in your system?


They can fire you if you come to work cained, just like they can fire you if you come to work holding a bottle of whisky and have the hickups.

Right, but what I'm saying is, if a person were to smoke on a Saturday, they will most likely still fail a drug test on Tuesday even though they come to work sober.



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haxxiy on 07 November 2012

I don't know. I used to be in favor of it but recently it came out a handful of evidence pointing out to the long-term damage of cannabis in the brain and concerning its effects on not yet fully-grown people.

Namely how cannabis, from almost every drug, is the one with the most chemical compounds ready to react with the brain displacing a whole class of neurotransmitters. How a marijuana smoker inhales 4 times more nicotine than a tobacco smoker. How it's dependence rate among teenagers reach 15%, same as cocaine, and how it lowers IQ up to 8 points due to long-term use.

Of course it remains to be seen if prohibiting and repressing is the way to go instead of rehabilitating and educating. I'd guess not.

Anyways it's sort of a taboo to be against marijuana nowadays so nevermind me... but I'm sure politicians would love the possibility of a huge part of the electorate having lower IQs and whatnot.



 

 

 

 

 

Augen on 07 November 2012

On opposite side of the coin, I still cannot legally purchase alcohol in my home county (it is "dry").

Sometimes I feel like part of the country is in the 21st century, and part is in the 19th century. Well done to Colorado and Washington as very interested how this plays out there.