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Do you think Marijuana should be legal?

Yes. 184 76.35%
 
Yes, for Medicinal purposes only. 21 8.71%
 
No. 32 13.28%
 
Other (post). 4 1.66%
 
Total:241
mrstickball said:
The real question is if Obama sends in the ATF to jail, kill or coerce people that will try to toke it up. He already has a nasty record with pot for some reason.

Its a great victory for freedom, but as long as men hold power in Washington to destroy state freedoms, one always has to worry as to how DC will act.

Yeah, i really don't understand what happened there.

Perhaps it will change in the second term with more flexibility on Obama's part? We can only hope.



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I also bet I could outrun most non smokers. Most recent check up has shown me to have a strong, clean healthy set of lungs.



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oldschoolfool said:
Slimebeast said:
oldschoolfool said:
Slimebeast said:

SamuelRSmith, I don't get it. How can you as an ultra-liberal not be in favor of legalizing marijuhanna?

I see this as a first step. Yes, the prison-legal system is an industrial hegemony that will fight for its survival and try to invent new markets (petty crimes) to justify its existence, but as a society and democracy we still have to make the right choices, the most sane choices. And the war on drugs is extremely insane and unethical.


drugs are bad!!!!! mkay. 

Drugs are bad but we still want them. The far majority of people like drugs as a recreation (alcohol).

And if I choose to enjoy something that is potentially harmful to me, society shouldn't punish me. If anything it should help me. And it can help me.

It's been proven that this punishment system does even more harm than the drugs in the first place. It punishes those who are already in need, it gives free money to unproductive people who should do something meaningful instead and it strengthens the criminal underworld.

All these lawyers, jailers, policemen, bureaucrats and politicans who are doing an absolutely meaningless and unproductive work by hunting drugs and drug-users under the pretext of standing for something good. And in reality they're immoral fucking leeches. It's so insane that I want to explode from anger.

my last post,was a joke. A bit of a south park reference. I disagree,I don't think a majority of people like drugs. Any average hard working citzen doesn't care for them. drugs are not legal and against the law,just don't do it. It's that simple,in my mind.The federal goverment will never make drugs legal,you can quote me on that. If they did,why stop there. Why not make anything that's bad for you legal. I mean there would be no criminal underworld at all,if we did that,right?? The whole medical weed thing,is just an excuse for people to get there fix. I personally don't buy into the magical,earthly weed thing. 

Yeah it sounded like a joke comment but then I checked earlier in the thread and saw that you are against drugs.

You said "I don't think a majority of people like drugs", but fact is that a majority of adult people in the Western world use drugs (alcohol and tobacco).



Mr Khan said:
mrstickball said:
The real question is if Obama sends in the ATF to jail, kill or coerce people that will try to toke it up. He already has a nasty record with pot for some reason.

Its a great victory for freedom, but as long as men hold power in Washington to destroy state freedoms, one always has to worry as to how DC will act.

Yeah, i really don't understand what happened there.

Perhaps it will change in the second term with more flexibility on Obama's part? We can only hope.

Bill Clinton wasn't soft on marijuana either.  It has been popular thing to keep the DEA going after marijuana users, clinics, growers and dealers.  Reefer Madness is a pretty damn good book that pretty much shows that it was on its way to becoming legal (or at least decriminalized) a long with being endorsed by American Medical Association and other various groups (quote from book - "The American Bar Association, the American Medical Association, and the National Council of Churches all supported the decriminalization of marijuana - as did President Jimmy Carter.  It seemed long prison sentences for marijuana offenders had been consigned to the nation's past") in the mid to late 70s.  Then Reagan happened.



Euphoria14 said:
Player1x3 said:
What most people here seem to ignore is the fact that marijuana is highly addictive and can make a person want to get on more dangerous drugs such as dope, cocaine or meth. And IT does damage to your brain...take these facts as you want

Of these MJ is also the easiest to let go of due to being physiological dependence rather than physical, which is why the "withdrawal symptoms" are depression, anxiety and mood swings. Symptoms which are difficult to pin point on MJ use due to widespread depression and anxiety just about everywhere.

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/reading-between-the-headlines/201205/is-marijuana-addictive

You mean psychological dependence, right?

Because usually it's psychological versus physical (and the term physiological describes the physical functions of the human body).



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Slimebeast said:
Euphoria14 said:
Player1x3 said:
What most people here seem to ignore is the fact that marijuana is highly addictive and can make a person want to get on more dangerous drugs such as dope, cocaine or meth. And IT does damage to your brain...take these facts as you want

Of these MJ is also the easiest to let go of due to being physiological dependence rather than physical, which is why the "withdrawal symptoms" are depression, anxiety and mood swings. Symptoms which are difficult to pin point on MJ use due to widespread depression and anxiety just about everywhere.

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/reading-between-the-headlines/201205/is-marijuana-addictive

You mean psychological dependence, right?

Because usually it's psychological versus physical (and the term physiological describes the physical functions of the human body).

I'm on my iPhone, it tends to auto correct. Should have read psychological.



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Euphoria14 said:
Slimebeast said:
Euphoria14 said:
Player1x3 said:
What most people here seem to ignore is the fact that marijuana is highly addictive and can make a person want to get on more dangerous drugs such as dope, cocaine or meth. And IT does damage to your brain...take these facts as you want

Of these MJ is also the easiest to let go of due to being physiological dependence rather than physical, which is why the "withdrawal symptoms" are depression, anxiety and mood swings. Symptoms which are difficult to pin point on MJ use due to widespread depression and anxiety just about everywhere.

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/reading-between-the-headlines/201205/is-marijuana-addictive

You mean psychological dependence, right?

Because usually it's psychological versus physical (and the term physiological describes the physical functions of the human body).

I'm on my iPhone, it tends to auto correct. Should have read psychological.

Euphoria, you're the guy who used to show lots of pictures of your daughter all the time, right?

And at the same time you're talking so openly about your own use of drugs.

Nothing wrong with that. Quite the opposite. I wish more people were that way!



zero129 said:

we would have less wars as lets face it what pot smoker wants to go to war over lies. we dont get super hot headed but instead relax smoke a joint and look at the big picture.

Haha, I love this argument.

Pot smokers wouldn't go to war for anything.



Slimebeast said:
zero129 said:

we would have less wars as lets face it what pot smoker wants to go to war over lies. we dont get super hot headed but instead relax smoke a joint and look at the big picture.

Haha, I love this argument.

Pot smokers wouldn't go to war for anything.

"I thought that dropping those cancer-causing tobacco cigarettes was bad enough, but now we find that a British intelligence chief once dropped opium-laced cigarettes on an enemy during WWI. The story is told by Tom Segev in One Palestine, Complete, Henry Holt and Company, 2001. The author discusses a campaign run by Colonel Richard Meinertzhagen:

    Meinertzhagen invented another method of hitting at the enemy. At sunset British planes would circle over concentrations of Turkish forces and drop opium cigarettes on them…On 6 November a high percentage of the Turkish Army at Sheria and Gaza were drowsy and befuddled. Some of the prisoners taken were barely coherent and quite incapable of resistance.

In Turn Around and Run like Hell, Murdoch Books, 2007, Joseph Cummins adds:

    Meinertzhagen heard that the Turks were desperate for tobacco so be bought thousands of packets of cigarettes on the black market and wrapped them in a leaflet that urged Turkish soldiers to “Have a smoke…and Surrender.” Then on numerous occasions he had himself piloted over the Turkish lines and rained the cigarettes down on the trenches.

    On 5 November, the Turks were attempting to make a stand at Sheria, about 15 kilometers southeast of Gaza. So Meinertzhagen went up in his plane and dropped thousands of packets of cigarettes again. The Turks didn’t even bother to take a shot at him, so grateful were they for a smoke.

    The difference this time was that Meinertzhagen had laced the butts with opium, also bought from his black market contacts. When the British attacked the next day, they found the Turks in an incoherent state, barely able to defend themselves."

 

 

Shame that opium is hard to find but I suppose hash/kief is almost up there (not really).  I only smoked red rock opium once in my life and we topped it on some semi decent weed.  It pretty much made it the best weed ever.



Slimebeast said:
Euphoria14 said:
Slimebeast said:
Euphoria14 said:
Player1x3 said:
What most people here seem to ignore is the fact that marijuana is highly addictive and can make a person want to get on more dangerous drugs such as dope, cocaine or meth. And IT does damage to your brain...take these facts as you want

Of these MJ is also the easiest to let go of due to being physiological dependence rather than physical, which is why the "withdrawal symptoms" are depression, anxiety and mood swings. Symptoms which are difficult to pin point on MJ use due to widespread depression and anxiety just about everywhere.

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/reading-between-the-headlines/201205/is-marijuana-addictive

You mean psychological dependence, right?

Because usually it's psychological versus physical (and the term physiological describes the physical functions of the human body).

I'm on my iPhone, it tends to auto correct. Should have read psychological.

Euphoria, you're the guy who used to show lots of pictures of your daughter all the time, right?

And at the same time you're talking so openly about your own use of drugs.

Nothing wrong with that. Quite the opposite. I wish more people were that way.

Indeed, that's me.

Some may think that makes me a terrible parent, but I know it doesn't.

 

I smoke after I put her to bed. I also work hard so I could place her in schooling since she was 1 1/2, keep her on a diet with no sodas or junk foods. She is a veggy addict, lol. I also pay to have her in dance classes and spend almost all my free time playing and/or teaching her. She is my world.

Its all about doing things responsibly.



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