The DualShock hasn't changed that much since the PS1, only really minor changes, and that will most likely included the DualShock 4. I don't know why but hardcore Sony fans are somewhat afraid to big changes (which isn't necessarily a bad thing).

UH, maybe because his statement is inane? If you state that there's no way you can ever come to *like* it and it's only degrees of tolerating something bad/awful/terrible then the statement is farcical. He is stating that you will *never* like something you don't immeditely cotton to, ever, which is patently and obviously absurd on its face.

I am 100% certain that *everyone* reading this thread has been in the position of not liking something*, sometime in life but, over time, coming to like or enjoy that something that they, at first, disliked.

And your example is great: I *hated* the original PS1 controller design for years but, over time, I've come to *like* it. A lot. Moreso, by some miles, than the beloved 360 pad, so the Dual Shock et al is not measured, any longer, in degress of tolerance, but in degrees of acceptance and enjoyment, putting to the sword the obviously ludicrous statement above.

*Like, I dunno: food, clothing, automobiles, music, videogames, sports, and pretty much every other thing on the face of the earth.

No, as a hypothetical statement, it's not inane.  If something is uncomfortable then it will remain uncomfortable even if you get used to it.  If you had to work in a situation where you had to reach behind you to use your mouse, could you get used to it?  Probably.  Would it ever not be uncomfortable?  Probably not.

What he said, in a vaccum, makes sense.  I have zero idea if that applies to the Wii U controller or not, as I haven't played it.

In a vacuum?? He is not speaking in a vacuum--he is speaking about the real-world, about the WiiU gamepad, not some hypothetical construct walled off from reality. This isn't a philosophy class and he is not teaching a course. (It's only true in a "vacuum" where you set up arbitrary rules that state that you can never come to like something you previously disliked, but he is *obviously* not doing this and, even if he was, the utility of such an argument is...what exactly?)--lots of things *are* uncomfortable/intolerable/frustrating at first, but you get used to them and then you can come to enjoy them. Including game controllers. Or sushi. Or The Beatles.

One of the side effects of heavy usage with PS3/Xbox 360 controllers is undesirable change in control. >.>

I STILL hate clothes. I wear them only because I hate prison even more.

I STILL use a PSOne Dualshock for PC games, because the input drivers for my preferred controller don't correctly map the analogue sticks. Now I'm totally used to the Dualshock's terrible ergonomics.

I hate clothes, too, but the whole freezing to death thing got to be a real drag.

Anyway, that's *all* I have to say on this topic--if you want to have the last word, by all means, it's yours and yours and yours, but I'm not going to keep bashing my head against a hypothetical brick wall, arbitrarily walled off from reality, where I can't play with the WiiU. Or a Dual Shock. Or wear clothes. Or eat sushi. Or make sound judgments on the logic undergirding grievously flawed and tortured arguments.

It's just his opinion. My god people can't even express how they feel about something without getting bashed for it because they have different opinions on things. Welcome to fucking earth. Not everyone is the same. 

I don't get it, the pad feels fine to me. The only thing that was a bit of a stretch was the L1/R1 buttons. Maybe you all have small hands, because the spacing between the buttons felt completely normal.