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Tigerlure said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Both policies sound like reasonable measures to reduce the deficit spending and kick start the lagging American economy. Why not adopt both policies?


Because adding to the deficit by passing huge tax cuts isn't a good idea for the economy in the long term. 


Why not?



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well as an outsider cutting tax will eithe rbe good or bad. All depends on what your current tax bracketd are.



 

 

SamuelRSmith said:
Tigerlure said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Both policies sound like reasonable measures to reduce the deficit spending and kick start the lagging American economy. Why not adopt both policies?


Because adding to the deficit by passing huge tax cuts isn't a good idea for the economy in the long term. 


Why not?


Eventually we have to pay that money back.



Slimebeast said:

You've been lied to but I think you should vote for the Romster anyway.

The world needs a strong USA as a beacon of light in this dark world.

And the guy has charisma.

This is the guy who came to London and said that we weren't ready to host the Olympics. The guy who called 47% of his country parasites who were dependent on the government. The guy who would start a trade war with China.

He has all the charisma of a wooden block.



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Kantor said:
Slimebeast said:

You've been lied to but I think you should vote for the Romster anyway.

The world needs a strong USA as a beacon of light in this dark world.

And the guy has charisma.

This is the guy who came to London and said that we weren't ready to host the Olympics. The guy who called 47% of his country parasites who were dependent on the government. The guy who would start a trade war with China.

He has all the charisma of a wooden block.

When I saw him in the debates he had great charisma.

And I am in favor of most of his policies, in the way that I believe they're a better future strategy for America to remain as the supervisor and leader of this world.

But I also want to say I changed my mind on one thing. Don't vote for the Romster. Obama deserves a second term to be able to prove himself and his vision for the world.



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Slimebeast said:
Kantor said:
Slimebeast said:

You've been lied to but I think you should vote for the Romster anyway.

The world needs a strong USA as a beacon of light in this dark world.

And the guy has charisma.

This is the guy who came to London and said that we weren't ready to host the Olympics. The guy who called 47% of his country parasites who were dependent on the government. The guy who would start a trade war with China.

He has all the charisma of a wooden block.

When I saw him in the debates he had great charisma.

And I am in favor of most of his policies, in the way that I believe they're a better future strategy for America to remain as the supervisor and leader of this world.

But I also want to say I changed my mind on one thing. Don't vote for the Romster. Obama deserves a second term to be able to prove himself and his vision for the world.

It's very easy to sound charismatic in a largely pre-scripted debate when your opponent shows up half asleep. And after the first one, they were both equally "charismatic".

Also, he has no policies, let's be honest. It's great that he wants to cut taxes, but he can't possibly do that without cutting spending, even if he is eliminating these imaginary deductions. He is increasing military spending when the USA spends 45% of total global military spending. On social issues he is a slave to his party, which is extraordinarily regressive.

Honestly, as a libertarian Romney is one of the vilest people I can possibly imagine as a leader. I'm no huge fan of Obama either, and I would gladly vote Johnson if I lived in the USA, but Romney definitely loses the "lesser of two evils" award here.



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Tigerlure said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Tigerlure said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Both policies sound like reasonable measures to reduce the deficit spending and kick start the lagging American economy. Why not adopt both policies?


Because adding to the deficit by passing huge tax cuts isn't a good idea for the economy in the long term. 


Why not?


Eventually we have to pay that money back.


Who's "we", and why do "we" have to pay anything back? You know it's physically impossible to pay the debt back, right?



spurgeonryan said:

Those are the two biggest issues that i am against. The Romster is for income tax cuts and Bobama is for killing Medicare.

 

Two horrible plans in my opinion.

Just more reasons to just vote for Johnson. Not that Johnson....

 

Romney/Ryan has very similar cuts to Medicare.  These cuts, are reductions in the increases in costs, as savings actually.



SamuelRSmith said:
NinjaguyDan said:

I pulled that bit from the apologist article you linked to.  

THESE PEOPLE ADD NOTHING TO THE SYSTEM, THEY ARE PARASITES, VAMPIRES FEEDING ON THE LIFEBLOOD OF THE WORKING MAN:

If you don't like health insurers, dont buy health insurance, use an alternative. Oh wait, you can't because you're much beloved Government have made it physically impossible for you to use any other kind of health model, and made it a taxable event to not own health insurance.

Damn those free markets! Oh wait...

What the heck is the alternative to not buying health insurance, outside of not having any?  You can toot your horn about "freedom" all you want, but the mandate is there to make sure you pay into the system to keep emergency room services going.  Also, the original idea was not to have a mandate, but to have state by state run markets where you could buy what you wanted, get subsidies when you came short, and have the government step in with a state run insurance program, that people could buy, if they didn't like the others, and no mandate. But, guess what happened?  Well, the insurance companies stepped in, along with GOP opposition and shot that down.  So, Romneycare came in, and had mandates plus subsidies and you had to buy from the market of insurance plans.

The reality is, there are NO other alternatives to insurance at this point.



richardhutnik said:

What the heck is the alternative to not buying health insurance, outside of not having any?  You can toot your horn about "freedom" all you want, but the mandate is there to make sure you pay into the system to keep emergency room services going.  Also, the original idea was not to have a mandate, but to have state by state run markets where you could buy what you wanted, get subsidies when you came short, and have the government step in with a state run insurance program, that people could buy, if they didn't like the others, and no mandate. But, guess what happened?  Well, the insurance companies stepped in, along with GOP opposition and shot that down.  So, Romneycare came in, and had mandates plus subsidies and you had to buy from the market of insurance plans.

The reality is, there are NO other alternatives to insurance at this point.


You must have misread my post.

...use an alternative. Oh wait, you can't because you're much beloved Government have made it physically impossible for you to use any other kind of health model, and made it a taxable event to not own health insurance....

There's no alternative to health insurance any more because Government made it impossible for any alternative. Not talking about Obamacare here, but all Government "regulations" and "interventions" in healthcare since the dawn of time.

"Herp derp it was Party A or Person X that did Y". Whether it was Republicans or Democrats who wrote the laws, I couldn't give less of a shit.