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Thank you Mr. Amp, with all these "what a great move by Disney" threads, I was afraid of posting.

Disney is crap in my books, and I just can't see the positive thing in this situation. I liked the whole Star Wars, not a huge fan of the series, and I don't think the Prequel Trilogy is bad, as a matter of fact I quite liked The Revenge of the Sith (that scene where Obi Wan is almost crying after defeating Anaking :'( )
I kind of wanted them to leave the series like that. Now, I'm worried, Jerry Bruckheimer as producer, .....the horror!



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Mummelmann said:
Crono141 said:
Mummelmann said:
To everyone who thinks this is a good thing, you did all hear what Disney said about the Lucasarts gaming division? Their main focus will be shifted towards mobile gaming and social games, its clear that the company does not intend to maintain Lucasarts' visions for their many licences and franchises, this is all about milking, which does not bode well at all for the new Star Wars trilogy.

Lucasarts hasn't made a good game since Tie Fighter anyway.

Well, no, but ...

Oh come on guys, you must be kidding.

Some LucasArts games made after Tie Fighter:
Sam & Max Hit the Road (very good)
Full Throttle (very good)
The Dig (utter crap imo due to Spielberg's incredibly lame story idea, but reviewers and many fans found it good)
The Curse of Monkey Island (brilliant)
Grim Fandango (a masterpiece)
Dark Forces (good)
X-Wing vs. Tie Fighters (good acc. to reviews, never played it)
Outlaws (good acc. to reviews, never played it)
Jedi Knight (very good acc. to reviews, never played it)

Two of these games (CoMI, GF) are in my all-time top 15.



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amp316 said:

Let's take a look at a list of a very large film company's sci-fi films.  Let's take a look at Disney's sci-fi films:

20,000 Leagues Under The Sea -1954 (I guess this is okay for a 1954 movie.)

Babes In Toyland - 1961 (The visuals in this are great if you're a color blind cyclops on acid.)

Blackbeard's Ghost - 1968 (It has Peter Ustinov, and pirates, and lameness.)

Bedknobs and Broomsticks - 1971 (Mary Freakin' Poppins was better than this!)

Pete's Dragon - 1977 (Puff, The Magic Dragon is better.)

The Black Hole - 1979 (This one's actually pretty entertaining for it's excellent soundtrack and extremely outdated special effects if you can find it on TMC at 3:45 A.M.)

Tron - 1982 (This one I actually like.  It's sequel isn't as good.)

Honey, I Shrunk The Kids - 1986 (The first in a trilogy which Rick Moranis refers to as "Honey, I Shrunk My Career.")

So there you go.  There's a definitive list of the science fiction films that Disney has made.  When you look at it, it doesn't look like Mr. Lucas did a very bad job at all, does it?  I hope that you guys are happy that you are getting what you're asking for and that's a company that made The Cat From Outer Space in charge of making the next Star Wars trilogy.  When the next trilogy stinks, remember that this is what you wanted. 

Let's look at the movies from your list I've seen and put them into correct genre perspective:

20,000 Leagues Under The Sea -1954 => a minor scifi classic; decent as scifi movie, mediocre as Jules Verne adaption
The Black Hole - 1979 => good and dark scifi movie with excellent score and good effects, huge flop; I like it, but it had no chance against Star Wars 2 which came a year later and was eagerly anticipated by the world's first movie franchise fanbase
Tron - 1982 => today a scifi cult classic, visually visionary, flopped; I love it, but again: had no chance against Star Wars 3 which came a year later
Honey, I Shrunk The Kids - 1986 => nice scifi family movie, did the job, entertained quite a few people, was successful for an 80s Disney movie

Babes In Toyland - 1961 => not scifi, a family fantasy movie
Blackbeard's Ghost - 1968 => same
Bedknobs and Broomsticks - 1971 => not scifi, a family fantasy/animation movie
Pete's Dragon - 1977 => same

I'm not sure what you wanted to prove with ths list anyway, but don't underestimate Disney's current CEO Robert Iger. I think he knows what he does, or at least he seems to me. I'm not sure if I'll like everything he'll greenlight, but at least the two latest important Disney animation movies were very good (The Princess and the Frog) and brilliant, respectively (Tangled - despite it's ridiculous unisex-attempt-title and despite its obscene budget it's one of the best Disney movies in decades imo).



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How can you hate pete's dragon? A musical with a wiskey drinking dragon and some poor little orphan kid who had his apples roasted.

Tron original was good, new one looked alright, but story was kind of meh. Have you seen the Trong Uprisning cartoon? Personally I think they did a better job at story in this than the movie lol.

amp316 said:

I don't personally care myself, but this is going to piss a lot of Star Wars fans off because Lucas himself has said that the Thrawn Trilogy was cannon.

The problem with Indy IMO is that they let it go on to the point with Harrison Ford where no one will accept another actor in the role.  They should have kept the series going with different actors like they did Bond.  Shia is awful and shouldn't return.    


Agreed with Indy, it would have worked well if they followed the James Bond route.

Totally agree with Shia. That guy just sucks.



 

 

riderz13371 said:

COME AT ME BRO!

The Star Wars prequel trilogy is actually a better group of films then the Matrix trilogy...



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okr said:
Mummelmann said:
Crono141 said:
Mummelmann said:
To everyone who thinks this is a good thing, you did all hear what Disney said about the Lucasarts gaming division? Their main focus will be shifted towards mobile gaming and social games, its clear that the company does not intend to maintain Lucasarts' visions for their many licences and franchises, this is all about milking, which does not bode well at all for the new Star Wars trilogy.

Lucasarts hasn't made a good game since Tie Fighter anyway.

Well, no, but ...

Oh come on guys, you must be kidding.

Some LucasArts games made after Tie Fighter:
Sam & Max Hit the Road (very good)
Full Throttle (very good)
The Dig (utter crap imo due to Spielberg's incredibly lame story idea, but reviewers and many fans found it good)
The Curse of Monkey Island (brilliant)
Grim Fandango (a masterpiece)
Dark Forces (good)
X-Wing vs. Tie Fighters (good acc. to reviews, never played it)
Outlaws (good acc. to reviews, never played it)
Jedi Knight (very good acc. to reviews, never played it)

Two of these games (CoMI, GF) are in my all-time top 15.

Sam & Max is now controlled by Telltale games.

And most of the other titles on that list are at least 10 years old, so LucasArts have been doing precious little the last 10 years. Plus Disney already has a game studio for bigger games.



BlkPaladin said:
okr said:
Mummelmann said:
Crono141 said:
Mummelmann said:
To everyone who thinks this is a good thing, you did all hear what Disney said about the Lucasarts gaming division? Their main focus will be shifted towards mobile gaming and social games, its clear that the company does not intend to maintain Lucasarts' visions for their many licences and franchises, this is all about milking, which does not bode well at all for the new Star Wars trilogy.

Lucasarts hasn't made a good game since Tie Fighter anyway.

Well, no, but ...

Oh come on guys, you must be kidding.

Some LucasArts games made after Tie Fighter:
Sam & Max Hit the Road (very good)
Full Throttle (very good)
The Dig (utter crap imo due to Spielberg's incredibly lame story idea, but reviewers and many fans found it good)
The Curse of Monkey Island (brilliant)
Grim Fandango (a masterpiece)
Dark Forces (good)
X-Wing vs. Tie Fighters (good acc. to reviews, never played it)
Outlaws (good acc. to reviews, never played it)
Jedi Knight (very good acc. to reviews, never played it)

Two of these games (CoMI, GF) are in my all-time top 15.

Sam & Max is now controlled by Telltale games.

And most of the other titles on that list are at least 10 years old, so LucasArts have been doing precious little the last 10 years. Plus Disney already has a game studio for bigger games.

Since Tie Fighter was a bit of hyperbole, but the point still stands.  They haven't made good games in approx 15 years.  And honestly, my favorite was X-wing/Tie Fighter flight sims, a genre that is all but dead.

In any case, there's no worry about what Lucasarts will do under Disney, because they haven't done anything worth doing for at least 10 years.



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amp316 said:
riderz13371 said:

COME AT ME BRO!

The Star Wars prequel trilogy is actually a better group of films then the Matrix trilogy...

If you take one whole trilogy vs the other whole trilogy, I'd have to agree.  Matrix 2 and 3 didn't make any sense and where pretty lousy.  However, I'd take the matrix 1 against the entire prequel trilogy any day.



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