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disolitude said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:


I think Surface Pro will have someting to say about that. Basically the only tablet which can fully function with any business.

A few million Pro tablets might sell to businesses next year but that's still not enough to become relevant or earn more than a measly 5% when ipad and Android commands 45% respectively.

We will see in a years time. Apple and Android will not have that marketshare next year guaranteed. Hell like I said already Microsoft have more partners than Google for their OS on Tablets.

It doesn't mean anything that other vendors are making Surface powered tablets. Just look at Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone 8. The same could be argued there, all the big guys made (and are still making) Windows Phones. And yet it is dead.

Think of it this way. MS is launching two tablets, the RT and the Pro. They have invested heavily in both, in marketing and otherwise.

And we already know the RT has failed and failed big time. It's the new Zune. No one wants it. So why on earth do you think that the delayed one of the two devices will somehow magically become a success?`When the market is heading towads $300 and $400 tablets you believe the $800 tablet will have any chance?


What basis has it failed?

Seriously. It is sold out before launch. Now its sold out for its next batch. Where does that mean failed????

Admit that even you feel it in your spine that RT will fail bigtime.

Have you asked yourself why the Surface only was released to official Microsoft stores and online? How pathetic is that! Have you ever seen a Microsoft store? I would bet you haven't, since there are only 31 Microsoft Stores in the whole world.

With this statement I am pretty sure you're not really grasping the big picture here...

The reason why Surface has only been released to the Microsoft store and is smaller numbers is because microsoft does not want Surface to sell crazy numbers. You see, Acer, Dell, Lenovo, Asus, HP, LG, Sony, Toshiba and anyone else that sells a windows 7, windows 8 laptop pays microsoft 60 dollars for each Windows license they purchase.  On top of that Office makes a killing for Microsoft as well.

With the Surface, Microsoft is giving Office away and is probably selling it for less profit than they would get for a regular, $399 Acer laptop. Not to mention that they have to keep their partners happy and not cut in to their tiny profit margins by stealing their lunch with their own tablet which makes them less money then an OEM sold device.

Your doom and gloom is totally unjustified here. Face it, Surface did exactly what they wanted it to do as is already a success. Its goal was to create Windows 8 awareness and a buzz...and here we are talking about it.  

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Pretty much what I'd think. Office and overall Windows is the appeal. But we'll have to see how it does in the long run. If this RT tablet feels as slow and clunky as any Windows netbook.



disolitude said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:


I think Surface Pro will have someting to say about that. Basically the only tablet which can fully function with any business.

A few million Pro tablets might sell to businesses next year but that's still not enough to become relevant or earn more than a measly 5% when ipad and Android commands 45% respectively.

We will see in a years time. Apple and Android will not have that marketshare next year guaranteed. Hell like I said already Microsoft have more partners than Google for their OS on Tablets.

It doesn't mean anything that other vendors are making Surface powered tablets. Just look at Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone 8. The same could be argued there, all the big guys made (and are still making) Windows Phones. And yet it is dead.

Think of it this way. MS is launching two tablets, the RT and the Pro. They have invested heavily in both, in marketing and otherwise.

And we already know the RT has failed and failed big time. It's the new Zune. No one wants it. So why on earth do you think that the delayed one of the two devices will somehow magically become a success?`When the market is heading towads $300 and $400 tablets you believe the $800 tablet will have any chance?


What basis has it failed?

Seriously. It is sold out before launch. Now its sold out for its next batch. Where does that mean failed????

Admit that even you feel it in your spine that RT will fail bigtime.

Have you asked yourself why the Surface only was released to official Microsoft stores and online? How pathetic is that! Have you ever seen a Microsoft store? I would bet you haven't, since there are only 31 Microsoft Stores in the whole world.

With this statement I am pretty sure you're not really grasping the big picture here...

The reason why Surface has only been released to the Microsoft store and is smaller numbers is because microsoft does not want Surface to sell crazy numbers. You see, Acer, Dell, Lenovo, Asus, HP, LG, Sony, Toshiba and anyone else that sells a windows 7, windows 8 laptop pays microsoft 60 dollars for each Windows license they purchase.  On top of that Office makes a killing for Microsoft as well.

With the Surface, Microsoft is giving Office away and is probably selling it for less profit than they would get for a regular, $399 Acer laptop. Not to mention that they have to keep their partners happy and not cut in to their tiny profit margins by stealing their lunch with their own tablet which makes them less money then an OEM sold device.

Your doom and gloom is totally unjustified here. Face it, Surface did exactly what they wanted it to do as is already a success. Its goal was to create Windows 8 awareness and a buzz...and here we are talking about it.  

 

Oh yes, buzz it did create, but Im not certain that the kind MS wanted it to.

And your logic, about MS wanting to let breathing space for manufacturers... are you serious? Do you really believe that these products should even be able to canibalize eachother? From where Im standing they are offered to two tottally separate user groups, and lets face it, from the early buzz W8 will not be the next XP or 7, and the tablet market is lost. We dont even need a to wait a year to see how fast the popularity of W8 based tablets will fall, we will only have to wait untill January, when all of us will see that the cheaper Android tablets and the 2NEW IPAD DEVICES will utterly humiliate MS.

Zune yet again, and the only successfull hardware made by MS is the glitch, that is the 360.



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hunter_alien said:
disolitude said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:


I think Surface Pro will have someting to say about that. Basically the only tablet which can fully function with any business.

A few million Pro tablets might sell to businesses next year but that's still not enough to become relevant or earn more than a measly 5% when ipad and Android commands 45% respectively.

We will see in a years time. Apple and Android will not have that marketshare next year guaranteed. Hell like I said already Microsoft have more partners than Google for their OS on Tablets.

It doesn't mean anything that other vendors are making Surface powered tablets. Just look at Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone 8. The same could be argued there, all the big guys made (and are still making) Windows Phones. And yet it is dead.

Think of it this way. MS is launching two tablets, the RT and the Pro. They have invested heavily in both, in marketing and otherwise.

And we already know the RT has failed and failed big time. It's the new Zune. No one wants it. So why on earth do you think that the delayed one of the two devices will somehow magically become a success?`When the market is heading towads $300 and $400 tablets you believe the $800 tablet will have any chance?


What basis has it failed?

Seriously. It is sold out before launch. Now its sold out for its next batch. Where does that mean failed????

Admit that even you feel it in your spine that RT will fail bigtime.

Have you asked yourself why the Surface only was released to official Microsoft stores and online? How pathetic is that! Have you ever seen a Microsoft store? I would bet you haven't, since there are only 31 Microsoft Stores in the whole world.

With this statement I am pretty sure you're not really grasping the big picture here...

The reason why Surface has only been released to the Microsoft store and is smaller numbers is because microsoft does not want Surface to sell crazy numbers. You see, Acer, Dell, Lenovo, Asus, HP, LG, Sony, Toshiba and anyone else that sells a windows 7, windows 8 laptop pays microsoft 60 dollars for each Windows license they purchase.  On top of that Office makes a killing for Microsoft as well.

With the Surface, Microsoft is giving Office away and is probably selling it for less profit than they would get for a regular, $399 Acer laptop. Not to mention that they have to keep their partners happy and not cut in to their tiny profit margins by stealing their lunch with their own tablet which makes them less money then an OEM sold device.

Your doom and gloom is totally unjustified here. Face it, Surface did exactly what they wanted it to do as is already a success. Its goal was to create Windows 8 awareness and a buzz...and here we are talking about it.  

 

Oh yes, buzz it did create, but Im not certain that the kind MS wanted it to.

And your logic, about MS wanting to let breathing space for manufacturers... are you serious? Do you really believe that these products should even be able to canibalize eachother? From where Im standing they are offered to two tottally separate user groups, and lets face it, from the early buzz W8 will not be the next XP or 7, and the tablet market is lost. We dont even need a to wait a year to see how fast the popularity of W8 based tablets will fall, we will only have to wait untill January, when all of us will see that the cheaper Android tablets and the 2NEW IPAD DEVICES will utterly humiliate MS.

Zune yet again, and the only successfull hardware made by MS is the glitch, that is the 360.

Nah you're wrong...about pretty much everything, but expecially about the whole "not the next XP or 7" comment.

Read this and then feel free to post again - http://www.zdnet.com/windows-8-is-the-new-xp-7000006095/



Slimebeast said:
Comments from a very select few who don't reflect the mass market.

selnor, you are trying your best at hyping this device but 6 months from now no one here on VGC will be talking about it because it's declared dead by then with less than 5% marketshare.

Surface ? Unlikely to be dead

W8 Tablets ? Impossible to be dead, will reign supreme.



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selnor said:
ArnoldRimmer said:
May I suggest you start a new thread for every single positive article/news about just any product that is somehow related to Microsoft.
Oh wait, you're already doing that.

I wonder how you manage to find these positive articles though. When I quickly googled for early adopters reviews, all I came across were articles like "Why I'm returning my Surface RT" (http://ozar.me/2012/10/why-im-returning-my-microsoft-surface-rt/), "Three days in the life of a once and former Microsoft Surface RT user" (http://www.zdnet.com/three-days-in-the-life-of-a-once-and-former-microsoft-surface-rt-user-7000006421/).


ROFL. 1 link says page not found. 

The other goes to a news feed.

because he made an error and the last brackets are included in the link (links are neon-green, so this is pretty easy to spot actually) - copy the address without the closing bracket..

links are working fine like this:

http://ozar.me/2012/10/why-im-returning-my-microsoft-surface-rt/

http://www.zdnet.com/three-days-in-the-life-of-a-once-and-former-microsoft-surface-rt-user-7000006421/



I like Samsung, but they make Android software tablets.

Do you guys think Samsung will make Win 8 tablets? That to me would be a perfect combo.



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NiKKoM said:
Heavenly_King said:
If I ever want a "tablet" I would buy this one. It offers complete compatibility with desktop windows software, good power, and the portability of a tablet, plus touch screen :)

No.. this is the RT version... where you can't use the desktop mode (except for office and acces to your usb drive.. ms prohibits third party developers to use the desktop on the RT) legacy programs won't run.. it only can run Metro apps... you're confusing (and with you millions of others) it with the PRO version..

I edited my post before your quoting was complete lol :D



sales2099 said:
I like Samsung, but they make Android software tablets.

Do you guys think Samsung will make Win 8 tablets? That to me would be a perfect combo.

Samsung, Lenovo etc.. All have W8 Tablets and will make more, those alone will destroy in sales the competition, not even counting all the other manufacters.



Argh_College said:
sales2099 said:
I like Samsung, but they make Android software tablets.

Do you guys think Samsung will make Win 8 tablets? That to me would be a perfect combo.

Samsung, Lenovo etc.. All have W8 Tablets and will make more, those alone will destroy in sales the competition, not even counting all the other manufacters.

Havent seen any on ads. You have a link to any ones on sale?



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