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Slimebeast on 29 October 2012
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
man-bear-pig said:
Slimebeast said:
Comments from a very select few who don't reflect the mass market.

selnor, you are trying your best at hyping this device but 6 months from now no one here on VGC will be talking about it because it's declared dead by then with less than 5% marketshare.


Ofcourse this DEVICE will have less than 5% marketshare, but Windows 8 tablets AS A WHOLE will be huge, and Microsoft will probably overtake Android in the tablet market in the not-too-distant future. The Pro will be huge...

No, I mean all Windows Surface based tablets combined will have less than 5% marketshare in 2013.


I think Surface Pro will have someting to say about that. Basically the only tablet which can fully function with any business.

A few million Pro tablets might sell to businesses next year but that's still not enough to become relevant or earn more than a measly 5% when ipad and Android commands 45% respectively.

We will see in a years time. Apple and Android will not have that marketshare next year guaranteed. Hell like I said already Microsoft have more partners than Google for their OS on Tablets.

It doesn't mean anything that other vendors are making Surface powered tablets. Just look at Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone 8. The same could be argued there, all the big guys made (and are still making) Windows Phones. And yet it is dead.

Think of it this way. MS is launching two tablets, the RT and the Pro. They have invested heavily in both, in marketing and otherwise.

And we already know the RT has failed and failed big time. It's the new Zune. No one wants it. So why on earth do you think that the delayed one of the two devices will somehow magically become a success?`When the market is heading towads $300 and $400 tablets you believe the $800 tablet will have any chance?



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selnor on 29 October 2012
ArnoldRimmer said:
May I suggest you start a new thread for every single positive article/news about just any product that is somehow related to Microsoft.
Oh wait, you're already doing that.

I wonder how you manage to find these positive articles though. When I quickly googled for early adopters reviews, all I came across were articles like "Why I'm returning my Surface RT" (http://ozar.me/2012/10/why-im-returning-my-microsoft-surface-rt/), "Three days in the life of a once and former Microsoft Surface RT user" (http://www.zdnet.com/three-days-in-the-life-of-a-once-and-former-microsoft-surface-rt-user-7000006421/).


ROFL. 1 link says page not found. 

The other goes to a news feed. 



pokoko on 29 October 2012

selnor said:

We will see in a years time. Apple and Android will not have that marketshare next year guaranteed. Hell like I said already Microsoft have more partners than Google for their OS on Tablets.

Not to get into the whole conflict about market share, but this particular point means very little.  The higher end tablet market for Android is pretty dismal.  Really, the Amazon Kindle is basically the market, with a possible boost from the Google tablet, so unless Microsoft is going to take the Kindle away from Android, the amount of partners isn't very important.

I don't believe Microsoft is going to take much of the casual market with the Surface, but it will be interesting to see how they do in the business tablet arena.  iPads will always be more popular with kids and people who want to look trendy, and the Kindle will continue to be popular with people who only care about smaller media devices.



selnor on 29 October 2012
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
man-bear-pig said:
Slimebeast said:
Comments from a very select few who don't reflect the mass market.

selnor, you are trying your best at hyping this device but 6 months from now no one here on VGC will be talking about it because it's declared dead by then with less than 5% marketshare.


Ofcourse this DEVICE will have less than 5% marketshare, but Windows 8 tablets AS A WHOLE will be huge, and Microsoft will probably overtake Android in the tablet market in the not-too-distant future. The Pro will be huge...

No, I mean all Windows Surface based tablets combined will have less than 5% marketshare in 2013.


I think Surface Pro will have someting to say about that. Basically the only tablet which can fully function with any business.

A few million Pro tablets might sell to businesses next year but that's still not enough to become relevant or earn more than a measly 5% when ipad and Android commands 45% respectively.

We will see in a years time. Apple and Android will not have that marketshare next year guaranteed. Hell like I said already Microsoft have more partners than Google for their OS on Tablets.

It doesn't mean anything that other vendors are making Surface powered tablets. Just look at Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone 8. The same could be argued there, all the big guys made (and are still making) Windows Phones. And yet it is dead.

Think of it this way. MS is launching two tablets, the RT and the Pro. They have invested heavily in both, in marketing and otherwise.

And we already know the RT has failed and failed big time. It's the new Zune. No one wants it. So why on earth do you think that the delayed one of the two devices will somehow magically become a success?`When the market is heading towads $300 and $400 tablets you believe the $800 tablet will have any chance?


What basis has it failed?

Seriously. It is sold out before launch. Now its sold out for its next batch. Where does that mean failed????



sales2099 on 29 October 2012
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
man-bear-pig said:
Slimebeast said:
Comments from a very select few who don't reflect the mass market.

selnor, you are trying your best at hyping this device but 6 months from now no one here on VGC will be talking about it because it's declared dead by then with less than 5% marketshare.


Ofcourse this DEVICE will have less than 5% marketshare, but Windows 8 tablets AS A WHOLE will be huge, and Microsoft will probably overtake Android in the tablet market in the not-too-distant future. The Pro will be huge...

No, I mean all Windows Surface based tablets combined will have less than 5% marketshare in 2013.


I think Surface Pro will have someting to say about that. Basically the only tablet which can fully function with any business.

A few million Pro tablets might sell to businesses next year but that's still not enough to become relevant or earn more than a measly 5% when ipad and Android commands 45% respectively.

MS Office alone gives this very high selling power to businesses and student markets.

Funny how Sony fans can openly use Apple to combat pro MS threads, openly neglecting their fav companys almost non-existant marketshare in tablets.



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Slimebeast on 29 October 2012
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:


I think Surface Pro will have someting to say about that. Basically the only tablet which can fully function with any business.

A few million Pro tablets might sell to businesses next year but that's still not enough to become relevant or earn more than a measly 5% when ipad and Android commands 45% respectively.

We will see in a years time. Apple and Android will not have that marketshare next year guaranteed. Hell like I said already Microsoft have more partners than Google for their OS on Tablets.

It doesn't mean anything that other vendors are making Surface powered tablets. Just look at Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone 8. The same could be argued there, all the big guys made (and are still making) Windows Phones. And yet it is dead.

Think of it this way. MS is launching two tablets, the RT and the Pro. They have invested heavily in both, in marketing and otherwise.

And we already know the RT has failed and failed big time. It's the new Zune. No one wants it. So why on earth do you think that the delayed one of the two devices will somehow magically become a success?`When the market is heading towads $300 and $400 tablets you believe the $800 tablet will have any chance?


What basis has it failed?

Seriously. It is sold out before launch. Now its sold out for its next batch. Where does that mean failed????

Admit that even you feel it in your spine that RT will fail bigtime.

Have you asked yourself why the Surface only was released to official Microsoft stores and online? How pathetic is that! Have you ever seen a Microsoft store? I would bet you haven't, since there are only 31 Microsoft Stores in the whole world.



ArnoldRimmer on 29 October 2012
selnor said:
ArnoldRimmer said:
May I suggest you start a new thread for every single positive article/news about just any product that is somehow related to Microsoft.
Oh wait, you're already doing that.

I wonder how you manage to find these positive articles though. When I quickly googled for early adopters reviews, all I came across were articles like "Why I'm returning my Surface RT" ( http://ozar.me/2012/10/why-im-returning-my-microsoft-surface-rt/ ), "Three days in the life of a once and former Microsoft Surface RT user" ( http://www.zdnet.com/three-days-in-the-life-of-a-once-and-former-microsoft-surface-rt-user-7000006421/ ).


ROFL. 1 link says page not found. 

The other goes to a news feed. 

You're probably using Microsoft Internet Explorer. ;)



Jazz2K on 29 October 2012

I like Windows 8 and I also like the direction MS is taking with tablets. I will wait for Surface Pro though as I would like to use Windows softwares.

I don't understand those who want this to fail... merging tablets and laptops in one fully functioning device is where the world is going and the way Apple is going by limiting users is only temporary. Microsoft is going to be first in this area and they offer the openess Apple can't provite... yea keep sticking to your awful iTunes and proprietary "usb"... once people realise they can do wahtever they do on their computer they can on the pro tablet be sure it'll fly like PCs are flying off shelves.

I don't care about the RT version as I think it won't stay on the market forever, to me it's a bit less useless than an iPad because it has a usb and office but once the Pro is out and all those companies making their pro tablets at competitive prices then laptops and tablets will be obsolete in a few years.



disolitude on 29 October 2012
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:


I think Surface Pro will have someting to say about that. Basically the only tablet which can fully function with any business.

A few million Pro tablets might sell to businesses next year but that's still not enough to become relevant or earn more than a measly 5% when ipad and Android commands 45% respectively.

We will see in a years time. Apple and Android will not have that marketshare next year guaranteed. Hell like I said already Microsoft have more partners than Google for their OS on Tablets.

It doesn't mean anything that other vendors are making Surface powered tablets. Just look at Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone 8. The same could be argued there, all the big guys made (and are still making) Windows Phones. And yet it is dead.

Think of it this way. MS is launching two tablets, the RT and the Pro. They have invested heavily in both, in marketing and otherwise.

And we already know the RT has failed and failed big time. It's the new Zune. No one wants it. So why on earth do you think that the delayed one of the two devices will somehow magically become a success?`When the market is heading towads $300 and $400 tablets you believe the $800 tablet will have any chance?


What basis has it failed?

Seriously. It is sold out before launch. Now its sold out for its next batch. Where does that mean failed????

Admit that even you feel it in your spine that RT will fail bigtime.

Have you asked yourself why the Surface only was released to official Microsoft stores and online? How pathetic is that! Have you ever seen a Microsoft store? I would bet you haven't, since there are only 31 Microsoft Stores in the whole world.

With this statement I am pretty sure you're not really grasping the big picture here...

The reason why Surface has only been released to the Microsoft store and is smaller numbers is because microsoft does not want Surface to sell crazy numbers. You see, Acer, Dell, Lenovo, Asus, HP, LG, Sony, Toshiba and anyone else that sells a windows 7, windows 8 laptop pays microsoft 60 dollars for each Windows license they purchase.  On top of that Office makes a killing for Microsoft as well.

With the Surface, Microsoft is giving Office away and is probably selling it for less profit than they would get for a regular, $399 Acer laptop. Not to mention that they have to keep their partners happy and not cut in to their tiny profit margins by stealing their lunch with their own tablet which makes them less money then an OEM sold device.

Your doom and gloom is totally unjustified here. Face it, Surface did exactly what they wanted it to do as is already a success. Its goal was to create Windows 8 awareness and a buzz...and here we are talking about it.  



sales2099 on 29 October 2012
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:
Slimebeast said:
selnor said:


I think Surface Pro will have someting to say about that. Basically the only tablet which can fully function with any business.

A few million Pro tablets might sell to businesses next year but that's still not enough to become relevant or earn more than a measly 5% when ipad and Android commands 45% respectively.

We will see in a years time. Apple and Android will not have that marketshare next year guaranteed. Hell like I said already Microsoft have more partners than Google for their OS on Tablets.

It doesn't mean anything that other vendors are making Surface powered tablets. Just look at Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone 8. The same could be argued there, all the big guys made (and are still making) Windows Phones. And yet it is dead.

Think of it this way. MS is launching two tablets, the RT and the Pro. They have invested heavily in both, in marketing and otherwise.

And we already know the RT has failed and failed big time. It's the new Zune. No one wants it. So why on earth do you think that the delayed one of the two devices will somehow magically become a success?`When the market is heading towads $300 and $400 tablets you believe the $800 tablet will have any chance?


What basis has it failed?

Seriously. It is sold out before launch. Now its sold out for its next batch. Where does that mean failed????

Admit that even you feel it in your spine that RT will fail bigtime.

Have you asked yourself why the Surface only was released to official Microsoft stores and online? How pathetic is that! Have you ever seen a Microsoft store? I would bet you haven't, since there are only 31 Microsoft Stores in the whole world.

You know its all politics because MS has to keep 3rd party makers happy with their Windows 8 tablets. Its win win. Surface is a foot in the door for MS, but Win 8 tablets are gonna be huge.

Think you seriously underestimate the sales potential of MS office built in.



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