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Play4Fun on 28 October 2012
JoeTheBro said:
zippy said:
Lets just hope it is a polished game, because Red Steel appeared to be very promising on the original Wii (also by the same company) but in the end it was nothing but a fantastic idea and concept, let down by poor execution, probably due to being rushed to meet a launch day release. First impressions count and sales of its sequel prove this, despite being a much superior game.


+1

ZombiU looks great but I really worry it will just be a repeat of Red Steel. Let's be honest guys, most launch IPs suck. I'd rather assume it is a bad game and get a pleasent suprise when it's not than expect wonders only to be let down.

Red Steel:  Hyped on early screenshots. Got mostly negative impressions from the media once they got some hands on play.

ZombiU: Early screens looked shitty and were mocked. The majority of hands on impressions have been overwhelmingly positive.

 

Not the same situation as Red Steel.



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Play4Fun on 28 October 2012
HesAPooka said:
ZombieU might just be the most over hyped game to come from Nintendo Lets be honest if this game was released on ps3 or xbox the Nintendo fanboy would be scream oh look another survival shooter. It's the same kind of game Ninty fanboys have been makeing fun of Xbox and ps3 gamers for playing in the past. I'm sick of hearing about it. it may or not be a good game when it finally arrives, but it's nothing ground breaking so lets give it a rest already.


If it was released on PS360 it wouldn't be the same game, so yeah, you're right.

Other than that, based on all the info and hands on impressions, it deserves all the hype.



curl-6 on 28 October 2012
HesAPooka said:
curl-6 said:
HesAPooka said:
ZombieU might just be the most over hyped game to come from Nintendo Lets be honest if this game was released on ps3 or xbox the Nintendo fanboy would be scream oh look another survival shooter. It's the same kind of game Ninty fanboys have been makeing fun of Xbox and ps3 gamers for playing in the past. I'm sick of hearing about it. it may or not be a good game when it finally arrives, but it's nothing ground breaking so lets give it a rest already.

"Another" survival horror? 

They are almost no real (quality) survival horror games these days. Resident Evil has become Gears of Duty, Dead Space is on its way there, and Silent Hill has turned to crap. That's why Zombiu looks promising; it's one of the only real survival horror game in some time that actually looks good.

Also, did a Nintendo fan diss your mother  or steal your lunch money or something?


Actually my mom is dead, and I pack my own lunch. 

So why the anger towards Nintendo's followers?



Jaywood2010 on 28 October 2012

It is important but not the only important game. ZombiU, Bayonetta 2, and probably a few others that will take a chance on it within the next year is going to be important. And I'm hoping it's a good game, I have it pre-ordered.




       

F0X on 28 October 2012
HesAPooka said:
curl-6 said:
HesAPooka said:
ZombieU might just be the most over hyped game to come from Nintendo Lets be honest if this game was released on ps3 or xbox the Nintendo fanboy would be scream oh look another survival shooter. It's the same kind of game Ninty fanboys have been makeing fun of Xbox and ps3 gamers for playing in the past. I'm sick of hearing about it. it may or not be a good game when it finally arrives, but it's nothing ground breaking so lets give it a rest already.

"Another" survival horror? 

They are almost no real (quality) survival horror games these days. Resident Evil has become Gears of Duty, Dead Space is on its way there, and Silent Hill has turned to crap. That's why Zombiu looks promising; it's one of the only real survival horror game in some time that actually looks good.

Also, did a Nintendo fan diss your mother  or steal your lunch money or something?


Actually my mom is dead, and I pack my own lunch. 


That's too bad (no sarcasm, though packing one's own lunch is a good thing in my book).

OT: All of the major survival horror franchies have apparently started to suck and/or have moved into the survival/action or action/horror categories. ZombiU has the benefit of having a larger focus on survival than ususal (because of permadeath), and doesn't appear to be going the blockbuster action route at all. It breaks some new ground with how the GamePad is utilized, but whether the game holds up in quality has yet to be determined. So it's promising and worth a few glances, but it's too early to say it's a huge feather in Nintendo's cap.



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HesAPooka on 28 October 2012
curl-6 said:
HesAPooka said:
curl-6 said:
HesAPooka said:
ZombieU might just be the most over hyped game to come from Nintendo Lets be honest if this game was released on ps3 or xbox the Nintendo fanboy would be scream oh look another survival shooter. It's the same kind of game Ninty fanboys have been makeing fun of Xbox and ps3 gamers for playing in the past. I'm sick of hearing about it. it may or not be a good game when it finally arrives, but it's nothing ground breaking so lets give it a rest already.

"Another" survival horror? 

They are almost no real (quality) survival horror games these days. Resident Evil has become Gears of Duty, Dead Space is on its way there, and Silent Hill has turned to crap. That's why Zombiu looks promising; it's one of the only real survival horror game in some time that actually looks good.

Also, did a Nintendo fan diss your mother  or steal your lunch money or something?


Actually my mom is dead, and I pack my own lunch. 

So why the anger towards Nintendo's followers?

K my mom isn't dead, but I do pack my own lunch lol. 
NO anger towards Nintendo, or the followers. I just think this game is getting too much hype is all. I love Nintendo, but people need to relax about the game. No one's even played it yet, but they are acting as if it's a break through in the industry. 



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Mr Khan on 28 October 2012
BenVTrigger said:
Its a hugely important game.

That being said Ubisoft better deliver quality. If the game bombs on reviews it could severly impact sales with early adopters.

It can hardly do worse than Red Steel, unless the game has serious playability problems that are only apparent from long-term play (like major overarching problems of the campaign. Gameplay impressions have been largely positive and true to what the developers have been pitching), and Red Steel posted strong enough sales merely on what it promised (but really didn't deliver) alone.



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Soundwave on 30 October 2012

This would be a reference of the best selling "hardcore" exclusive/premiere IP on Nintendo platforms since 1995 or so.

My criteria was the games should have come out on Nintendo consoles first and/or been exclusive for a certain period of time. No Mario/Zelda games are considered, no mascot based IP (sorry DK, Sonic, Kirby, Yoshi, etc.) nor any more "kid centric" properties (ie: Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Disney, Lego, etc.). Don't get your pants in a twist, just wanted to narrow the comparison down to be relevant to a game like ZombiU.


GoldenEye (N64): 8.09 million worldwide

Killer Instinct (SNES): 3.2 million worldwide
Wave Race 64 (N64): 2.94 million worldwide
Metroid Prime (GameCube): 2.82 million worldwide
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (N64): 2.65 million worldwide
Perfect Dark (N64): 2.52 million worldwide
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron (N64): 2.17 million worldwide
Resident Evil 4 (Wii): 2.11 million worldwide
1080 Snowboarding (N64): 2.03 million worldwide

Monster Hunter Tri (Wii): 1.9 million worldwide
Turok 2 (N64): 1.89 million worldwide
GoldenEye (Wii): 1.7 million worldwide
Resident Evil 4 (GameCube): 1.69 million worldwide
Metroid Prime 3 (Wii): 1.63 million
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (Wii): 1.49 million worldwide
Resident Evil REmake (GameCube): 1.4 million worldwide
Metroid Prime 2 (GameCube): 1.33 million worldwide
Resident Evil 0 (GameCube): 1.29 million worldwide
NBA Courtside (N64): 1.19 million worldwide
Mission: Impossible (N64): 1.17 million worldwide
Metroid: Other M (Wii): 1.15 million worldwide
South Park 64 (N64): 1.14 million worldwide
F-Zero X (N64): 1.1 million worldwide
NFL Quarterback Club '98 (N64): 1.08 million worldwide
Excitebike 64 (N64): 1 million worldwide
Red Steel (Wii): 1 million worldwide (approx)
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II (GameCube): 1 million+ worldwide (approx)


Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles (Wii): 970k worldwide
Tales Of Symphonia (GameCube): 953k worldwide
Killer Instinct Gold (N64): 820k ww
House of the Dead Overkill (Wii): 800k worldwide
Conker's Bad Fur Day (N64): 770k worldwide
Xenoblade (Wii): 740k worldwide
MadWorld (Wii): 700k worldwide
F-Zero GX (GameCube): 650k worldwide
Wave Race: Blue Storm (GameCube) 600k worldwide
Red Steel 2 (Wii): 540k worldwide
The Conduit (Wii): 530k worldwide
No More Heroes (Wii): 520k
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (GameCube): 470k worldwide
Eternal Darkness (GameCube): 440k worldwide
The Last Story (Wii): 410k worldwide
Sin & Punishment: Star Successor (Wii): 370k worldwide
No More Heroes 2 (Wii): 350k worldwide
1080 Avalanche (GameCube): 310k worldwide

Conclusions: GoldenEye on N64 obviously is in a different stratosphere. N64 actually had Nintendo's best selling "hardcore" games. The arrival of Microsoft into the gaming business probably hurt Nintendo here.

Wii, despite it's much larger usberbase than SNES, N64, or GCN (pretty much the same size as all three combined) has not been able to sell more in this product categorey.

N64 was actually pretty good at selling hardcore games, with even things like sports games (NFL QB Club, NBA Courtside), FPS shooters, Star Wars titles, and racers (1080/Wave Race/F-Zero) really doing well. GameCube and Wii have been steps backwards.



cusman on 30 October 2012

In terms of exclusive support from 3rd parties... this game 100% will decide how things go post-release

The Wii U will receive healthy 3rd party port support regardless even after XBox Next and PS4 get released.

Will Nintendo themselves make another Eternal Darkness or such M rated quality game as a 1st party or 2nd party game? Nothing seems to be in the pipeline but time will tell. It seems unlikely though.



zippy on 30 October 2012

Not sure if ita classed as an exclusive, but didnt Monster hunter Tri on the Wii push out a couple of million in sales?