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Argh_College on 27 October 2012

That IE9 commercial is outstanding!

i guess because of that IE stills one of ths most popular browsers!

http://gs.statcounter.com/

I love IE9 but Chrome is king



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Slimebeast on 27 October 2012

As a reference iPad is +50% of marketshare on a ~100 million devices per year market. Android based manufacturers shares the rest.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/25/strategy-analytics-claims-android-reached-41-percent-of-tablets/



Argh_College on 27 October 2012
Slimebeast said:
kowenicki said:
Its going to be a success. The people that said this would be a huge flop couldn't have been more wrong. Imagine how well all the Windows 8 tablets combined are going to do in general this holidays and during 2013.

I still believe it's going to be a huge flop.

I know it's hard, but what would you consider a success? 5% of marketshare in the first year? 10%? 20%?

I believe less than 5% first year marketshare for all Windows tablets and at the end of 2013 there will be no signifcant growth of that marketshare and analysists will have declared it as a flop and MS will have lost money on this expensive adventure.

You are funny but your place shouldnt be in a videogames forum...

HAHAHA



Slimebeast on 27 October 2012
Argh_College said:
Slimebeast said:
kowenicki said:
Its going to be a success. The people that said this would be a huge flop couldn't have been more wrong. Imagine how well all the Windows 8 tablets combined are going to do in general this holidays and during 2013.

I still believe it's going to be a huge flop.

I know it's hard, but what would you consider a success? 5% of marketshare in the first year? 10%? 20%?

I believe less than 5% first year marketshare for all Windows tablets and at the end of 2013 there will be no signifcant growth of that marketshare and analysists will have declared it as a flop and MS will have lost money on this expensive adventure.

You are funny but your place shouldnt be in a videogames forum...

HAHAHA

Dude. In smartphones Windows Phone has almost a full year together with Nokia behind it already and Windows Phone yet still has only a measly 2-3% of total smartphone marketshare. It's simply dead.

The tablets market is similar. And we already know Windows Surface RT has got pretty mediocre reviews like Arnoldrimmer said. So how on earth are they gonna get more than 5% when they are last to the party and not even cheapest?



hunter_alien on 27 October 2012
Argh_College said:
Slimebeast said:
kowenicki said:
Its going to be a success. The people that said this would be a huge flop couldn't have been more wrong. Imagine how well all the Windows 8 tablets combined are going to do in general this holidays and during 2013.

I still believe it's going to be a huge flop.

I know it's hard, but what would you consider a success? 5% of marketshare in the first year? 10%? 20%?

I believe less than 5% first year marketshare for all Windows tablets and at the end of 2013 there will be no signifcant growth of that marketshare and analysists will have declared it as a flop and MS will have lost money on this expensive adventure.

You are funny but your place shouldnt be in a videogames forum...

HAHAHA


Is that all your argument? I mean you didnt write in this thread nothing, except LOL, ROFL and everything inbetween that makes absolutly no sense. Do you have... uhm... metal issues?

 

Its a nice line, but im with Slime on this one. MS will be kicked out HARD from the tablet business. The device is waaay to expensive, barely has any apps, and it just does not have the "coolness" of an apple product. Wait for the iPad 4 and Mini, and the Surface will be forgotten by december



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hunter_alien on 27 October 2012
kowenicki said:
hunter_alien said:
Argh_College said:
Slimebeast said:
kowenicki said:
Its going to be a success. The people that said this would be a huge flop couldn't have been more wrong. Imagine how well all the Windows 8 tablets combined are going to do in general this holidays and during 2013.

I still believe it's going to be a huge flop.

I know it's hard, but what would you consider a success? 5% of marketshare in the first year? 10%? 20%?

I believe less than 5% first year marketshare for all Windows tablets and at the end of 2013 there will be no signifcant growth of that marketshare and analysists will have declared it as a flop and MS will have lost money on this expensive adventure.

You are funny but your place shouldnt be in a videogames forum...

HAHAHA


Is that all your argument? I mean you didnt write in this thread nothing, except LOL, ROFL and everything inbetween that makes absolutly no sense. Do you have... uhm... metal issues?

 

Its a nice line, but im with Slime on this one. MS will be kicked out HARD from the tablet business. The device is waaay to expensive, barely has any apps, and it just does not have the "coolness" of an apple product. Wait for the iPad 4 and Mini, and the Surface will be forgotten by december

and windows 8 tabs in general?


Of course more manufacurers=more sales, but I doubt that even in general they will make any dent in Apples dominance. I mean Windows is to much for a tablet IMO. Thats why the iOS is so popular and to some small extent Android-based tabs. It might gather some starting momentum, and maybe even sell decent numbers this holiday season, but as a whole Im not seeing it doing any real damage.

When it comes to tablets I doubt that Windos 8 based tablets will ever go even near 10% market share, and for a couple of years that percentage will be non-profitable number wise. This is one race where MS came way to late with way to little, and lets hope for their sake, that the PC market wont transform entirely into a touchbased one, because then they might have some issues in the longrun.



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Argh_College on 27 October 2012
hunter_alien said:
Argh_College said:
Slimebeast said:
kowenicki said:
Its going to be a success. The people that said this would be a huge flop couldn't have been more wrong. Imagine how well all the Windows 8 tablets combined are going to do in general this holidays and during 2013.

I still believe it's going to be a huge flop.

I know it's hard, but what would you consider a success? 5% of marketshare in the first year? 10%? 20%?

I believe less than 5% first year marketshare for all Windows tablets and at the end of 2013 there will be no signifcant growth of that marketshare and analysists will have declared it as a flop and MS will have lost money on this expensive adventure.

You are funny but your place shouldnt be in a videogames forum...

HAHAHA


Is that all your argument? I mean you didnt write in this thread nothing, except LOL, ROFL and everything inbetween that makes absolutly no sense. Do you have... uhm... metal issues?

 

Its a nice line, but im with Slime on this one. MS will be kicked out HARD from the tablet business. The device is waaay to expensive, barely has any apps, and it just does not have the "coolness" of an apple product. Wait for the iPad 4 and Mini, and the Surface will be forgotten by december

Again BIG BIG LOOOL

You have no clue out you are talking about... This aint Sony here mate.



Argh_College on 27 October 2012
Slimebeast said:

As a reference iPad is +50% of marketshare on a ~100 million devices per year market. Android based manufacturers shares the rest.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/25/strategy-analytics-claims-android-reached-41-percent-of-tablets/

lol what a stupid comparison... MS had no tablets on the market or almost none when this hit...

Next Year will be a whole different story.



superchunk on 27 October 2012

Good stuff.

I'm very interested to see how this impacts Windows Phone. This is exactly what MS is hoping for. To leverage Win8 and jumpstart is failing WinPhone business.

The tablets are more like a PC and I'm sure quite a few were waiting on something that could actually replace a laptop/pc with a tablet experience. This truly does and even more so as apps are created specifically for the RT version.

WinPhone might finally become a third tier in the mobile market. Again, competition will be great for all of us otherwise the market would be stagnant.



superchunk on 27 October 2012
pezus said:
I don't mind more competition for Apple. They need to have their ass handed to them from Android and Windows tablets, so they might stop with the ridiculous pricing (who am I kidding?).

Apple won't change its pricing model. Just look at the iPad Mini that was intended to compete against the Nexus7. Its nearly twice as much with less features and lower quality screen, the most important piece of the tablet.

Android is now around 40-45% of the tablet market, almost entirely due to the Kindle Fire and Nexus 7. This year Nexus7 is upgrading its storage (doubling) at the same price points. Additionally a Nexus10 is launching and will also be priced very aggresively, I'm thinking it will start at $300 which is cheaper than the iPad Mini. It will again blow away the specs of the iPad3 just as Nexus7 does for iPad Mini.

Next year this time Android tablets, Fire, Nexus 7 and 10, Note 10.7, and a few of the others like Asus lineup will together have a greater than 50% share of the tablet market and iPad will no longer be the king.

However, if RT is good and has good word of mouth, this initially very good interest in the Surface tablets will result in a very good increase of MS marketshare. It should also have a direct positive effect on winphone.

It should be interesting to watch.