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Forums - General - So I just discovered that a church I have been going to for about 2 years now thinks you will go to Hell if you get divorced!

Uhh well don't turn your back on it because of a mistake. Be part of the solution and propose an alternative.

Too much work? Gtfo and it's your loss. Just kidding.

Yes, you will sin. But so what? We sin every fucking day lmao. So nothing changes.

Decisions must be taken and life goes on.



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The Catholic Church has a similar belief. You have to get an annulment.

It basically boils down to this. When you get married you are making a promise for life. That's why you say, "until death do us part." Since the church doesn't recognize a legal divorce, you can't get married of be intimate with anyone else. The Church would see it as cheating since you are considered still married to the first person.

I don't know all the rules on annulments, but I do know that it's difficult to get one in the Catholic Church.

Now, with that said. Jesus died for our sins. We are sinners and God still loves us even though we sin. The Church may have a rule, but I personly don't think God would be so noneunderstanding as to turn away from a good person of faith if they tried to stay married but couldn't make it work.



Well, according to the Christian religion only something like 0.003% of people are allowed in heaven anyway, so I say you go back and get yourself some damn coffee.



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Looks like you won't enjoy eternal paradise after all, so enjoy that coffee and your naked pastor while you can.



I'd rather go to Hell anyway...

There's probably better music there.



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kain_kusanagi said:

The Catholic Church has a similar belief. You have to get an annulment.

It basically boils down to this. When you get married you are making a promise for life. That's why you say, "until death do us part." Since the church doesn't recognize a legal divorce, you can't get married of be intimate with anyone else. The Church would see it as cheating since you are considered still married to the first person.

I don't know all the rules on annulments, but I do know that it's difficult to get one in the Catholic Church.

Now, with that said. Jesus died for our sins. We are sinners and God still loves us even though we sin. The Church may have a rule, but I personly don't think God would be so noneunderstanding as to turn away from a good person of faith if they tried to stay married but couldn't make it work.

To add to this a bit, the general Protestant teaching on marriage is that the only non-sinful reason for divorce is marital unfaithfulness (which, I have speculated, might be able to include spousal abuse).

As for the existance of rules and calling things sinful in general in Christianity, the teaching is that anything unloving is sinful; or, to do everything with love as the intent is to avoid sin completely.  As such, any command that one might find in the Bible should be understood to have been giving with the intent of ensuring a loving action.

And, as kain was also saying, in Christianity, committing a sin (as a Christian) does not mean you're going to Hell; only not professing the Lordship of Christ does.



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This makes for some really sad people. I have a friend who, even-though they are legally divorced, she will not date other people. She is miserable, and makes other people miserable. I don't think that is how we are supposed to live our lives.

It takes a strong person to accept that their marriage isn't one they should be in - for whatever reason. I think marriages should last for life, but I am not naive enough to think they all will. Nobody should be forced to stay in an unhealthy or unloving relationship.

As as far as annulments within a Church - most of them you pay enough money they will annul your marriage.

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Well Christ did abrogate the law of divorce from the OT. So while the hell thing is BS, if you want to follow what Christ actually taught you should not get divorced, except if your spouse commits adultery.

Matthew
5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

The principle of mutatis mutandis means the same thing applies to a man who is divorced. If you divorce for reasons other than adultary then both parties are regarded as adulterers, and if you re-marry then the person you marry is also made an adulterer. Since Christ legitimises divorce on grounds of adultery then if that is the reason for divorce then the non-adulterous spouse is not accounted an adulterer simply due to divorce, and is hence free to re-marry without any spiritual or moral stain on their character.

What's Christ saying here? You should only ever have sex with one person in your life, and that is your husband / wife. 5:32 is essentially a repudiation of on-demand divorce and the only legitimate cause for divorve is fornication.

Don't ever listen to what anyone says is or isn't Christian doctrine. Go to the Bible and read it and understand it for yourself. Heck don't even give any weight to the interpretive stuff I've written. Only pay attantion to the stuff I've quoted from the Bible.

Disclaimer: I am not a Christian, though I do believe in the divine mandate of Christ. I don't recognise the authority of any Church.



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