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Some organization (maybe more than one) is putting up signs in poor neighborhoods, warning voter fraud is a felony.  But, they won't identify themselves.  If this is a noble causes, why wouldn't they identify themselves?

http://www2.ohio-votes.com/news/2012/oct/15/voter-fraud-billboards-targeting-minorities-ar-1205966/

Could it be, maybe, that it is more intimindation?



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Because they know this is about racism and voter intimidation. Plain and simple



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

well of course its intimidation. Its the the threat that if you commit voter fraud, that you are commiting a felony crime. Whats the issue here?

 

Edit: There is nothing incorrect on the signs. They just state one simple fact. The only people who would be effected are people breaking the law, so really how is this racist or a problem?



I'm probably one of the few black individuals who agrees with the sign. If that's the law on the books, the only people who it will deter are those who are willingly breaking it (maybe they will reconsider and try to find the proper means to vote)



thranx said:

well of course its intimidation. Its the the threat that if you commit voter fraud, that you are commiting a felony crime. Whats the issue here?

 

Edit: There is nothing incorrect on the signs. They just state one simple fact. The only people who would be effected are people breaking the law, so really how is this racist or a problem?

It's all code. Voter fraud is not a problem, but the "image" of voter fraud is the same as the image of the illegal immigration problem.

It's not what we're really talking about



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

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Mr Khan said:
Because they know this is about racism and voter intimidation. Plain and simple


In what way does it demonstrate racism or voter intimidation? Are the MADD put up in my community against drinking and driving a form of "driver intimidation"?

 

Realistically, the person who paid for these ads was probably (very) worried about the consequences associated with taking a stance on what has become a partisan political issue. If their information was made public it is likely that they would face death threats and harassment from people, and would be at significant risk of losing their job.



Mr Khan said:
thranx said:

well of course its intimidation. Its the the threat that if you commit voter fraud, that you are commiting a felony crime. Whats the issue here?

 

Edit: There is nothing incorrect on the signs. They just state one simple fact. The only people who would be effected are people breaking the law, so really how is this racist or a problem?

It's all code. Voter fraud is not a problem, but the "image" of voter fraud is the same as the image of the illegal immigration problem.

It's not what we're really talking about

They state a fact. that is all. They state what the law says. The only ones discouraged would be those committing voter fraud. I fail to see an issue. What legal voters are discouraged by this, as it it clearly states voeter fraud, not voting, just voter fraud. The only argument seems to be that voter fraud is not a problem. Well that doesn't change the fact that voter fraud is a felony and can mean 3.5 years in prison or 10k fine. People are free to make signs for what they feel are problems, obviously someone disagrees and thinks voter fraud is a problem and wanted to make sure people knew of the possible consequences to breaking that law. If someone wants to make billboards that say voter fraud is not a problem they are free to do so. It doesn't change the fact on these billboards that voter fraud is a crime that can punishible by 10k fine and 3.5 years in jail.



Mr Khan said:
thranx said:

well of course its intimidation. Its the the threat that if you commit voter fraud, that you are commiting a felony crime. Whats the issue here?

 

Edit: There is nothing incorrect on the signs. They just state one simple fact. The only people who would be effected are people breaking the law, so really how is this racist or a problem?

It's all code. Voter fraud is not a problem, but the "image" of voter fraud is the same as the image of the illegal immigration problem.

It's not what we're really talking about

what "image" are we talking about here? A judges hammer (gavel)? That is pretty common place for anything invovling a law, which is what the billboard states. What do you mean by its all code? Its some kind of hidden message that miniorites will read as I better not vote? or i will go to jail? If thats the case there is nothing that can be done about people seeing what is not there. Its states a very simple law, and its conseuences that is all.



Mr Khan said:

It's all code. Voter fraud is not a problem, but the "image" of voter fraud is the same as the image of the illegal immigration problem.

It's not what we're really talking about


Where do I get my mystic code-book that decodes all the magical coded messages that are now supposedly surrounding us?

Both the Republicans and Democrats are being largely dishonest with this because their partisan stance is based on the same beliefs; that there is voter fraud that primarily benefits the Democrats, and there will be legitimate voters denied the right to vote who also primarily vote for the Democrats.

If people were being honest and said "I want to block illegal voters but still ensure that everyone who has the right to vote can still vote" I could respect them more.



Mr Khan said:
thranx said:

well of course its intimidation. Its the the threat that if you commit voter fraud, that you are commiting a felony crime. Whats the issue here?

 

Edit: There is nothing incorrect on the signs. They just state one simple fact. The only people who would be effected are people breaking the law, so really how is this racist or a problem?

It's all code. Voter fraud is not a problem, but the "image" of voter fraud is the same as the image of the illegal immigration problem.

It's not what we're really talking about


Except voter fraud totally is a  problem... and is one that nobody even tries to look at.  When you do bother to look at it, you find tons of people illegally registered to vote.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/05/09/exclusive-florida-investigating-potential-non-citizen-voters/

You are just being hyper partisian again.

 

As for why they wouldn't identify themselves.

Why would you identify yourself?   What would be the point?  Well other then spending more for extra stuff put on the billboard.