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Gaikai could maybe be a solution for BC for when the PS4 comes out, maybe, for those who want to play PS3 games but don't have or want to buy the physical media.

But I think the best thing SONY could do is when the PS4 does come out, make an even newer super duper slim PS3 with PS2/PS1 BC. That way they can finally stop selling PS2s. There is still a ton of potential for selling an offline system that will play PS3/PS2/PS1 game discs if they can do it for less than $149 and make a good profit.



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dharh said:

Gaikai could maybe be a solution for BC for when the PS4 comes out, maybe, for those who want to play PS3 games but don't have or want to buy the physical media.

But I think the best thing SONY could do is when the PS4 does come out, make an even newer super duper slim PS3 with PS2/PS1 BC. That way they can finally stop selling PS2s. There is still a ton of potential for selling an offline system that will play PS3/PS2/PS1 game discs if they can do it for less than $149 and make a good profit.


They might do that, and that's a pretty decen't idea,

But your idea still doesn't address what really needs to be addressed....

that being, how do they make the downloadable games that people bought that need a Cell processor to work.....how to make them work on your PS4.  In order to make PSN/SEN go mainstream and not look like a joke, (Sony's aspirations are to go after Apple)....they will need to make that happen.

 

This is where Gaikai must come through....especially since the Cell Processor seems to be on its way out for future devices.



dharh said:

Gaikai could maybe be a solution for BC for when the PS4 comes out, maybe, for those who want to play PS3 games but don't have or want to buy the physical media.

But I think the best thing SONY could do is when the PS4 does come out, make an even newer super duper slim PS3 with PS2/PS1 BC. That way they can finally stop selling PS2s. There is still a ton of potential for selling an offline system that will play PS3/PS2/PS1 game discs if they can do it for less than $149 and make a good profit.


I absolutely agree with you that a console capable of playing those 3 systems games perfectly would sell like hotcakes, Especially if you look at the prices the backwards compatible original models fetch on ebay. Sadly tho I just don't think it would be possible, sure the psone is no issues whatsoever, but playstation 2 emulation by the CELL just isn't going to happen this means having to include more hardware than is in the slims atm and neither model of that can be gotten for anywhere near $150 adding the ps2 cpu/gpu to their current prices makes it a hard sell realistically.



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Persistantthug said:
dharh said:

Gaikai could maybe be a solution for BC for when the PS4 comes out, maybe, for those who want to play PS3 games but don't have or want to buy the physical media.

But I think the best thing SONY could do is when the PS4 does come out, make an even newer super duper slim PS3 with PS2/PS1 BC. That way they can finally stop selling PS2s. There is still a ton of potential for selling an offline system that will play PS3/PS2/PS1 game discs if they can do it for less than $149 and make a good profit.


They might do that, and that's a pretty decen't idea,

But your idea still doesn't address what really needs to be addressed....

that being, how do they make the downloadable games that people bought that need a Cell processor to work.....how to make them work on your PS4.  In order to make PSN/SEN go mainstream and not look like a joke, (Sony's aspirations are to go after Apple)....they will need to make that happen.

 

This is where Gaikai must come through....especially since the Cell Processor seems to be on its way out for future devices.

I agree with that in terms of the PS4 having PS3 BC. But I don't think they will do that for their PS3/PS2/PS1 machine. It's possible that they will drop PS1 support, since alot of the good PS1 games already have PSN support. I think though that the problem with Gaikai is that I can't use my physical media with it. I just don't see SONY selling 3 home consoles at the same time, which means they need to have a single console that covers PS3/PS2 games. I think 1 or 2 years from now when PS4 comes out there is a distinct possibility to have a cheep system that includes both cell and a SOC that can emulate the PS2. Anything else will not really be profitable.



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dharh said:
Persistantthug said:
dharh said:

Gaikai could maybe be a solution for BC for when the PS4 comes out, maybe, for those who want to play PS3 games but don't have or want to buy the physical media.

But I think the best thing SONY could do is when the PS4 does come out, make an even newer super duper slim PS3 with PS2/PS1 BC. That way they can finally stop selling PS2s. There is still a ton of potential for selling an offline system that will play PS3/PS2/PS1 game discs if they can do it for less than $149 and make a good profit.


They might do that, and that's a pretty decen't idea,

But your idea still doesn't address what really needs to be addressed....

that being, how do they make the downloadable games that people bought that need a Cell processor to work.....how to make them work on your PS4.  In order to make PSN/SEN go mainstream and not look like a joke, (Sony's aspirations are to go after Apple)....they will need to make that happen.

 

This is where Gaikai must come through....especially since the Cell Processor seems to be on its way out for future devices.

I agree with that in terms of the PS4 having PS3 BC. But I don't think they will do that for their PS3/PS2/PS1 machine. It's possible that they will drop PS1 support, since alot of the good PS1 games already have PSN support. I think though that the problem with Gaikai is that I can't use my physical media with it. I just don't see SONY selling 3 home consoles at the same time, which means they need to have a single console that covers PS3/PS2 games. I think 1 or 2 years from now when PS4 comes out there is a distinct possibility to have a cheep system that includes both cell and a SOC that can emulate the PS2. Anything else will not really be profitable.

You're referring to backwards compatibility on the hardware level.   That's a nice thing to have, but it's not that important.

 

You see, I'm only referring to the downloadable games that people bought.....those have to work...or else.....basically.

 

And also, You can't really mix the PS3's unique architecture with more linearly based architectures that Sony's rumored to be going after this next time around with the PS4, and the Cell can't be emulated either.

So this puts Sony in a precarious situation because, while they are trying to put PSN/SEN in practically all devices trying to become more mainstream, they'll be left holding alot of baggage, effectively saying "hey PSN/SEN is great, come buy our awesome stuff.....we don't guarantee it will work in the future, it might not.....but hey our stuff's awesome....come buy our stuff."

 

This is where Gaikai must come in and save them.....again, or else.



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dharh said:
Persistantthug said:
dharh said:

Gaikai could maybe be a solution for BC for when the PS4 comes out, maybe, for those who want to play PS3 games but don't have or want to buy the physical media.

But I think the best thing SONY could do is when the PS4 does come out, make an even newer super duper slim PS3 with PS2/PS1 BC. That way they can finally stop selling PS2s. There is still a ton of potential for selling an offline system that will play PS3/PS2/PS1 game discs if they can do it for less than $149 and make a good profit.


They might do that, and that's a pretty decen't idea,

But your idea still doesn't address what really needs to be addressed....

that being, how do they make the downloadable games that people bought that need a Cell processor to work.....how to make them work on your PS4.  In order to make PSN/SEN go mainstream and not look like a joke, (Sony's aspirations are to go after Apple)....they will need to make that happen.

 

This is where Gaikai must come through....especially since the Cell Processor seems to be on its way out for future devices.

I agree with that in terms of the PS4 having PS3 BC. But I don't think they will do that for their PS3/PS2/PS1 machine. It's possible that they will drop PS1 support, since alot of the good PS1 games already have PSN support. I think though that the problem with Gaikai is that I can't use my physical media with it. I just don't see SONY selling 3 home consoles at the same time, which means they need to have a single console that covers PS3/PS2 games. I think 1 or 2 years from now when PS4 comes out there is a distinct possibility to have a cheep system that includes both cell and a SOC that can emulate the PS2. Anything else will not really be profitable.


Given how easily the psone can be emulated (original xbox/wii can do it) there really isn't any point to for it not to be able to have backwards compatibility with those games. As for Gaikai not using your physical media, it could easily, all the ps4 would need to be able to do would be acknowledge that your system had the correct blu ray disk in the drive of whatever ps3 game you had and then give you access to it on the cloud, exactly the same as the xbox360 with installed games from your harddive.



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Persistantthug said:
dharh said:
Persistantthug said:
dharh said:

Gaikai could maybe be a solution for BC for when the PS4 comes out, maybe, for those who want to play PS3 games but don't have or want to buy the physical media.

But I think the best thing SONY could do is when the PS4 does come out, make an even newer super duper slim PS3 with PS2/PS1 BC. That way they can finally stop selling PS2s. There is still a ton of potential for selling an offline system that will play PS3/PS2/PS1 game discs if they can do it for less than $149 and make a good profit.


They might do that, and that's a pretty decen't idea,

But your idea still doesn't address what really needs to be addressed....

that being, how do they make the downloadable games that people bought that need a Cell processor to work.....how to make them work on your PS4.  In order to make PSN/SEN go mainstream and not look like a joke, (Sony's aspirations are to go after Apple)....they will need to make that happen.

 

This is where Gaikai must come through....especially since the Cell Processor seems to be on its way out for future devices.

I agree with that in terms of the PS4 having PS3 BC. But I don't think they will do that for their PS3/PS2/PS1 machine. It's possible that they will drop PS1 support, since alot of the good PS1 games already have PSN support. I think though that the problem with Gaikai is that I can't use my physical media with it. I just don't see SONY selling 3 home consoles at the same time, which means they need to have a single console that covers PS3/PS2 games. I think 1 or 2 years from now when PS4 comes out there is a distinct possibility to have a cheep system that includes both cell and a SOC that can emulate the PS2. Anything else will not really be profitable.

You're referring to backwards compatibility on the hardware level.   That's a nice thing to have, but it's not that important.

 

You see, I'm only referring to the downloadable games that people bought.....those have to work...or else.....basically.

 

And also, You can't really mix the PS3's unique architecture with more linearly based architectures that Sony's rumored to be going after this next time around with the PS4, and the Cell can't be emulated either.

So this puts Sony in a precarious situation because, while they are trying to put PSN/SEN in practically all devices trying to become more mainstream, they'll be left holding alot of baggage, effectively saying "hey PSN/SEN is great, come buy our awesome stuff.....we don't guarantee it will work in the future, it might not.....but hey our stuff's awesome....come buy our stuff."

 

This is where Gaikai must come in and save them.....again, or else.

Sorry but if they expect me to play my PSN games via Gaikai, no sale. Aint happenin. 



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i think it would be in thier best interest.



ganoncrotch said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Sometimes I think I must be the only person with a slow broadband connection. I can't watch high quality video streams without buffer breaks so there's no way I'd be able to play a game streaming across the internet. If Sony or MS or whatever installs a server farm across the street maybe I'd be more hopeful. But right now I have no interesting in stream gaming.

I know I'm not the only one. The US has a huge number of rural slow connections that aren't going to get upgraded any time soon. The US is just far too big to get fiber in every home at a reasonable cost.


you can't even watch a 720 youtube video without giving it some time to buffer up? because you have to remember that almost all playstation 3 games are rendered natively in that anyway, Even here in Ireland it's been possible to stream at 720 for the past couple of years, and our internet is made of potatoes and lucky charms.


if you think your interent is bad come to jordan, we still over 128/256/512 KB's speed here, my internet connection is 4 MB but it always is slower than promised. i always find it funny when people in the states complain about there interent, just come live here for a month and you will think your interent connection is faster than light its self



bananaking21 said:
ganoncrotch said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Sometimes I think I must be the only person with a slow broadband connection. I can't watch high quality video streams without buffer breaks so there's no way I'd be able to play a game streaming across the internet. If Sony or MS or whatever installs a server farm across the street maybe I'd be more hopeful. But right now I have no interesting in stream gaming.

I know I'm not the only one. The US has a huge number of rural slow connections that aren't going to get upgraded any time soon. The US is just far too big to get fiber in every home at a reasonable cost.


you can't even watch a 720 youtube video without giving it some time to buffer up? because you have to remember that almost all playstation 3 games are rendered natively in that anyway, Even here in Ireland it's been possible to stream at 720 for the past couple of years, and our internet is made of potatoes and lucky charms.


if you think your interent is bad come to jordan, we still over 128/256/512 KB's speed here, my internet connection is 4 MB but it always is slower than promised. i always find it funny when people in the states complain about there interent, just come live here for a month and you will think your interent connection is faster than light its self

My home internet stayed around that speed. My grandpa wired the house and used some low quality cables. My college speed hoever is fast! Wifi is around 50 mbps, wired is 200. Bring gaikai Sony!