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Who won the debate?

Vice President Joe Biden 218 52.03%
 
Congressman Paul Ryan 123 29.36%
 
Nobody/Tie 73 17.42%
 
Total:414
NintendoPie on 11 October 2012
alastor@where said:
CBS News poll for uncommitted voters voted Biden as the winner. 50% to Ryans's 31%. So this poll is invalid.

That only makes 81%... I'm not sure what you are getting at here.



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Kasz216 on 11 October 2012
Max King of the Wild said:
Biden denied knowing there was a request for more security? Pathetic... I'm watching fact checker right now

Biden denying that he voted for the wars... but he did... how the fuck do you forget about that?

I don't believe he ever denied voting for the wars.  He just mentioned Ryan did... knowing that Ryan wouldn't mention the fact that Biden did as well... because it only helps Obama.

and that coincidentally Biden was one of the main driving democrats who rustled up enough support to invade Iraq.



gergroy on 11 October 2012
alastor@where said:
CBS News poll for uncommitted voters voted Biden as the winner. 50% to Ryans's 31%. So this poll is invalid.

why?  It's pretty clear with the low expectations for bidens and the performance tonight that Biden won.



Kasz216 on 11 October 2012
BenVTrigger said:
@Kasz216

100% agree the biggest disgrace of the debate was the moderator. Who the hell allowed her to do this it was pathetic how biased she asked.

Regardless of who you wanna vote for I think its obvious this was not an even debate. It was 2 vs 1

Eh, I don't agree with that.   While she did favor Biden in most issues, there were a few where it seemed like she gave Ryan an advantage. 



gergroy on 11 October 2012
NintendoPie said:
alastor@where said:
CBS News poll for uncommitted voters voted Biden as the winner. 50% to Ryans's 31%. So this poll is invalid.

That only makes 81%... I'm not sure what you are getting at here.


that just means that 19% said they did about the same or had no winner.



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theprof00 on 11 October 2012
killerzX said:
theprof00 said:
Wagram said:
I do think it's pretty funny though that some of the same people who are criticizing Biden for interrupting Ryan were supportive of Romney interrupting Obama, and even the Moderator.

yep

romney had the opening and closing statements on every topic, interrupted the mod every time.

I didn't say anything. I said, kind of rude, but I think Romney definitely won.
Too bad all I hear tonight is boohoo b-b-biden was interrupting

only there is a huge difference.

Romney was fighting, strugling for equal time. last time the moderator was constantly trying to stop romney when he was in the middle of a point, and switch topics. Romney just wanted to make his points. and he still spoke for 5 minutes less than obama.

this time,  crazy joe was angry, rude, and interrupted constantly while ryan was trying to speak. he laughed during ryans turn, and the moderater allowed joe to do this, and ryan was very respectful. and Joe still spoke for a couple minutes longer.

nono, romney had to stop everytime to correct obama on things that he himseld was saying for the past year. It's not Obama's fault Romney became super romney the week before and had an all new talking plan and ideas.

As for Biden?

Look at the media, what they were saying about Romney "yes Romney interupted and talked over the mod, but it showed a fired up strong leader".
Romney did the same. In fact, during the debate, I was like, "did Biden steal Romney's playbook?" the numbering of points, the interruptions, the correcting, the facts. Romney did the exact same thing, and while LAST WEEK, I said 'Romney won', 'not in the facts or the message or even in manners, but he controlled the debate'. Biden did the same. Tough shit.

Everyone said Ryan was going to walk all over Joe and make him look like an idiot. Biden made him look like a child. "Look, this is how a nuke is made, not how YOU say it's made, it's made by A,B,C. You don't just have one. "

"You're putting fewer and fewer Americans in the east"
Biden says "YES, I AM, FEWER AMERICANS, MORE AFGHANS, MORE AFGANS, UNDERSTAND? FEWER AND FEWER AMERICANS MORE AND MORE AFGHANS, YOU SEE HOW THAT WORKS"

Ryan got schooled.



Coca-Cola on 11 October 2012
badgenome said:
Wagram said:
I do think it's pretty funny though that some of the same people who are criticizing Biden for interrupting Ryan were supportive of Romney interrupting Obama, and even the Moderator.

Maybe because Obama spoke about 5 minutes longer than Romney did, so Romney was fighting for equal time, whereas it was much closer this time. Biden only spoke about a minute longer than Ryan did.

Just heard that Biden got 11 minutes more than Ryan.



HappySqurriel on 11 October 2012

On who won ...

I was thinking this before CNN said it but I think they got it right, on substance it was a tie but in terms of style Paul Ryan probably won.



Max King of the Wild on 11 October 2012
Kasz216 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Biden denied knowing there was a request for more security? Pathetic... I'm watching fact checker right now

Biden denying that he voted for the wars... but he did... how the fuck do you forget about that?

I don't believe he ever denied voting for the wars.  He just mentioned Ryan did... knowing that Ryan wouldn't mention the fact that Biden did as well... because it only helps Obama.

and that coincidentally Biden was one of the main driving democrats who rustled up enough support to invade Iraq.



I'm pretty sure the fact checker said he voted against the budget and wars but he in fact voted for the budget until the last one that Bush signed in and he did vote for both the wars.



NintendoPie on 11 October 2012
gergroy said:
NintendoPie said:
alastor@where said:
CBS News poll for uncommitted voters voted Biden as the winner. 50% to Ryans's 31%. So this poll is invalid.

That only makes 81%... I'm not sure what you are getting at here.


that just means that 19% said they did about the same or had no winner.

Oh, ok.

So now Biden is winning, but our poll is invalid! ;)