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lilbroex said:

It was beautiful indeed.

Its a shame really. We could have seen FF7 on the console it was originally intended for.

How big was all the game data for FFVII excluding the CGI cutscenes? People always argue about this but we can never congure up the proof, surely someone must be able to do it.



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Panama said:
It's going to by itself in the market for a whole year, PS4 and 720 will need a hell of a gimmick to catch up.


PS3 and X360 don't count anymore? Lots of multiplats and exclusives coming next year for the HD twins.



Viper1 said:
teigaga said:


Again we're talking about big companies, when their own resources are stretched, they outsouce. Budget contrainst should be a none factor because the assumption is that you're making money back from the cost of importing by the additional userbase you're expecting to sell to. For it to be a problem they must believe the Wii U userbase is not interested in their games or the effort required to port must be extensive (which can't be the case as Wii U arcitecture is more similar to the 360 then the ps3's is). But regardless of the reasoning, the end result is negative.

So tell me, why is Ubisoft giving such huge Wii U support but not Watch Dogs?

Might it be that Ubisoft Montreal is putting all their Wii U development effort into Assassin's Creed III?    Might it be that the game engine hasn't been ported to Wii U yet?


“Not at this time. We have so many titles in development for Wii U right now that we need to keep that team focused and this is a very very ambitious game. But it’s not out of the question.”
-Ubisoft

As you can see, I'm offering cirucmstances just as plausible as you are which are also backed up by some of the actual developers.  Why do you continue to insist that only the negative circumstances are plausible?  You assume way too damn much with claims like they would outsource if they wanted it.  Outsource it to whom that has the game engine ported over to Wii U and enough readily avaiable dev kits and resources lying around not already working on soemthing to take on the job?

It is plausible they can't port it over due to lack of resources etc, but I'd rather stick to my assumption that if a massive company like Ubisoft really wanted to port the game to Wii U then they would. Regardless of the reason their absense puts the Wii U in bad place in regards to 3rd party support, this is the only point I care to make.



Rafux said:
Panama said:
It's going to by itself in the market for a whole year, PS4 and 720 will need a hell of a gimmick to catch up.


PS3 and X360 don't count anymore? Lots of multiplats and exclusives coming next year for the HD twins.

I'm pretty sure at least that Sonys overall ps3 line up for 2013 will overshadow the Wii U's.



happydolphin said:
phenom08 said:

Why not show me how the 3DS is trending compared to the DS. You continue to dodge that. The 3DS will begin outpacing the DS so I dont care about the 3DS software not performing the way you think they should. For all you know it may be because of the different times they were released in. What do you mean but no much more than it pushed the 3DS lol. Mario pushed the 3DS to better performance than the DS so then i could be right NSMBU could push the WiiU above the Wii. It doesn't have to prove its self in the West thats just some bs Sony fans made up to make it sound bad lol. Its selling just as well in the west as the DS so its clearly trending fine and is outselling everything on the market currently. I dont care if you think it should be whooping ass in the west because its outpacing the DS which is hardly bad a thing and its whooping everyone else ass on the market and will continue to do so. So if anything as something to prove than its the 360 and PS3 and their inconsistence globally. Wow are you so desperate to bash the WiiU that you are seriously comparing its performance in japan to the 3DS. Why not compare it launch aligned to the PS3 lol. Here Ill make a prediction for you the WiiU will be the highest selling home console for the next 4 years. 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016. Quote me on that.

The DS had no significant software to propel its sales in its first year. The 3DS already got 2 SMB games, Mario Kart, Nintendogs, Brain Age, and many other evergreens and killer apps. I hope it's outpacing the DS. Oddly enough, it's neck and neck with DS in europe (see Kowen's thread).

But the fact of the matter is, it's very weak (relatively to the DS). The DS gets an _explosive_ boost in 2006, two years after launch, and an even bigger one in 2008. How will this happen for 3DS when all the ingredients for the 3DS boost have already been spent (price cut, XL model, NSMB, evergreens)?

You answer that, then you can tell me who is the hater. When I like someone/something, it tell it to them straight, I don't kiss ass.

The WiiU will be the highest selling home console for the next 4 years, that's not the point. The point is, by how much? If it is neck and neck with the other two, that is not on par with my expectations. It may be for you, but I have higher standards for Nintendo. There's a true fan.

Wow lol the DS had no significant software to propel it. It also had Nintendogs which has actually done well, Mario Kart DS, and Super Mario 64. How is that not significant support? On top of that it has had the benefit of being cheaper even with a 3DS price cut and it has had two holidays remember. The gaps will grow alot when the 3DS gets its second holiday. Its far from WEAK lol, wow what spin. You cant be this desperate can you? How is it weak if its outpacing the DS lol?  The DS gets an explosion thanks to the DS lite a redesign something the 3DS could get as well lol, same with 2008. Everything has not been spent wow that is so desperate its sad. The DS got an XL but for some reason the 3DS cant get anymore redesigns. Or more price cuts even though its still more expensive than the DS was at launch? No more evergreens? Really lol. Ever heard of Pokemon and Animal crossing? Or how about MH something the DS didn't get. How do you know Ninty wont change their plans and make another Mario evergreen like Mario 3Dland 2, kinda like the Wii getting two 3D marios. In other words I don't care about your speculation only whats going on now, it could go either way so keep it out and accept the 3DS is doing better.

Also how can something sell the most and be neck and neck lol? If the WiiU sells the most then it won't be neck and neck. Your not a true fan just because you consider Ninty not doing well if they don't meet some unrealistic expectations. You sound like if i consider the WiiU a failure if it doesn't outsell the PS2 then im true fan. No your using that as crutch to bash Ninty. You don't like Ninty, I can see it in your post.



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teigaga said:
Rafux said:
Panama said:
It's going to by itself in the market for a whole year, PS4 and 720 will need a hell of a gimmick to catch up.


PS3 and X360 don't count anymore? Lots of multiplats and exclusives coming next year for the HD twins.

I'm pretty sure at least that Sonys overall ps3 line up for 2013 will overshadow the Wii U's.

Im pretty sure the WiiU's exclusives outshined the Ps3's line up this year.



phenom08 said:
teigaga said:
Rafux said:
Panama said:
It's going to by itself in the market for a whole year, PS4 and 720 will need a hell of a gimmick to catch up.


PS3 and X360 don't count anymore? Lots of multiplats and exclusives coming next year for the HD twins.

I'm pretty sure at least that Sonys overall ps3 line up for 2013 will overshadow the Wii U's.

Im pretty sure the WiiU's exclusives outshined the Ps3's line up this year.


You mean next year :p

In terms of exclusives I'm sure the Wii U will outshine all but add the 3rd party titles which are coming to ps3 and haven't yet been announced for the Wii U: Tomb Raider, DMC, Bioshock, MGS, GTA V to Sony's already strong line up: God of War, Last of Us, Beyond: 2 souls, Puppeteer and I think sony has the overall lead.

I'm expecting the Wii U current line up (most of which were once launch titles) to be stretched out till summer. I think either the Wonderful 100 or Pikimin 3 will be delayed till summer, alongside Wii Fit U. Theres no reason to release so many titles in Q1. Rayman, Monster Hunter and one of the above will be enough. I think we'll only see 2 new titles arriving in the later half, probably Mario Kart and something else (nintendogs U, Animal Crossing, Mario Party?)

I think 2014 will be their really strong year with Retro's Title, Super smash bros U, a new 3D mario, Beyonetta 2, something orginal and A Zelda reveal. 



brendude13 said:
lilbroex said:

It was beautiful indeed.

Its a shame really. We could have seen FF7 on the console it was originally intended for.

How big was all the game data for FFVII excluding the CGI cutscenes? People always argue about this but we can never congure up the proof, surely someone must be able to do it.

Not big at all. All of the cotent for the whole game is on each one of the 3 discs aside from the CGI and the sound libary for FF7 was like 800 KB. I'd give it the benefit of the doubt and say 50 MB. People have no idea how much storage video and audio take up.



brendude13 said:
Proclus said:
I'll believe it when I see it, show that you can do it and I'll buy your system.

Damnit! You made me think Millenium came back!

I thought he was Millenium...?



teigaga said:
Viper1 said:

So tell me, why is Ubisoft giving such huge Wii U support but not Watch Dogs?

Might it be that Ubisoft Montreal is putting all their Wii U development effort into Assassin's Creed III?    Might it be that the game engine hasn't been ported to Wii U yet?


“Not at this time. We have so many titles in development for Wii U right now that we need to keep that team focused and this is a very very ambitious game. But it’s not out of the question.”
-Ubisoft

As you can see, I'm offering cirucmstances just as plausible as you are which are also backed up by some of the actual developers.  Why do you continue to insist that only the negative circumstances are plausible?  You assume way too damn much with claims like they would outsource if they wanted it.  Outsource it to whom that has the game engine ported over to Wii U and enough readily avaiable dev kits and resources lying around not already working on soemthing to take on the job?

It is plausible they can't port it over due to lack of resources etc, but I'd rather stick to my assumption that if a massive company like Ubisoft really wanted to port the game to Wii U then they would. Regardless of the reason their absense puts the Wii U in bad place in regards to 3rd party support, this is the only point I care to make.

So they are already heavily supporting Wii U, they even have a big exclusive at launch, their Montreal executive says it's possible but they've already put their focus on other consoles but could still happen and you conclude that means Wii U 3rd party support is in a bad place.

I just wanted to make sure we got that straight.



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