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ECM on 05 October 2012
BenVTrigger said:
Liberals really are getting desperate arent they...

Have you seen the new unemployment report? Yeah you guys keep having fun with Obama


Yeah, they are, but that's what happens when you can't carry water fast enough to keep your candidate's swiftly-sinking ship afloat.

(Also: good luck using this meme to get traction with people, lefties, pols lie. Everyone knows it, everyone expects it, and, even if this is 100% true, it won't matter one bit because we're numb to it. Hell, Obama lied his way into office, going from a hard leftist (check out his voting record in the Senate before attempting to spint this) to a centrist over the course of about 8 months in '08 and it had *no* effect at all on his electability. So yeah, better find another bandage before Obama's campaign bleeds out on the floor.)



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Kasz216 on 05 October 2012
pokoko said:
Kasz216 said:
The very first thing wasn't a lie. So i'm going to guess the rest weren't either, and this is just another of your general lame talking points things taken off Moveon.org or something.

Even the more liberal fact checking places really didn't see to find tooo much wrong with either side in the debate.

Only thing I can think of Is Romney mistakenly referring to unemployer+underemployed as unemployed.

They both told a ton of half-truths with a few lies sprinkled in.  I don't think we should let them off the hook by just thinking they were mistaken.

As long as Romney keeps his plans vague, he's going to have a huge advantage in debates, especially when he can just cite "studies" by his own advisers that say his tax plan will work.


Oh yeah, both sides talked it just about nothing but half truths. 

However that's mostly just a matter of opinion on shit mostly.

Actual lies, deserve to be treated differently then "I think this will happen if I do this"   "This group disagrees" (though others agree etc.)



Kasz216 on 05 October 2012
Mr Khan said:
I fixed the italics tag. Something weird in the formatting where the first letter was getting put in brackets, and the first letter of an entry was "I," so a tag open that was, naturally, never closed.

Plus the jobs report was taken as a good thing.


Which is odd... considering there was only 116,000 jobs created or so... and there weren't that many people who left the market too... about an equal amount.

 

All I can imagine is that there were almost no new workers /people looking for work this month.

 



Max King of the Wild on 05 October 2012

I saw this floating around facebook.



killerzX on 05 October 2012
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
I fixed the italics tag. Something weird in the formatting where the first letter was getting put in brackets, and the first letter of an entry was "I," so a tag open that was, naturally, never closed.

Plus the jobs report was taken as a good thing.


Which is odd... considering there was only 116,000 jobs created or so... and there weren't that many people who left the market too... about an equal amount.

 

All I can imagine is that there were almost no new workers /people looking for work this month.

 

what are you telling me you dont  believe nearly 1 million people found work last month!? 

these numbers a clearly fixed. unemployment hasnt been below 8% since obama took office, the month before the elecion it gets down to below 8%. how convenient. these number will get revised up. they are really about 8.2%. but by the time they get corrected. it will be after the election.

labor force participation is still at 30 year lows.



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Kasz216 on 05 October 2012
killerzX said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
I fixed the italics tag. Something weird in the formatting where the first letter was getting put in brackets, and the first letter of an entry was "I," so a tag open that was, naturally, never closed.

Plus the jobs report was taken as a good thing.


Which is odd... considering there was only 116,000 jobs created or so... and there weren't that many people who left the market too... about an equal amount.

 

All I can imagine is that there were almost no new workers /people looking for work this month.

 

what are you telling me you dont  believe nearly 1 million people found work last month!? 

these numbers a clearly fixed. unemployment hasnt been below 8% since obama took office, the month before the elecion it gets down to below 8%. how convenient. these number will get revised up. they are really about 8.2%. but by the time they get corrected. it will be after the election.

labor force participation is still at 30 year lows.

I think the Buereu of Labor statistics is too inefficent to fix anything.

Really if anything i'd expect the job numbers to be revised upwords, because consumer sentiment was reported as up.

It's weird for sentiment to be up, but hiring to be down.

 

Actually thinking about it, the unemployment rate probably went down with such a weak number because i believe jobs numbers are seasonally adjusted, while unemployment rate isn't.  So it could be due to a big Christmas boom of part time help.



Max King of the Wild on 05 October 2012

That would make a lot of sense Kaz. I know my Target store (Ultra low volume) hires about 20 or so seasonal workers in september till jan



CDiablo on 05 October 2012

Wheres the Obama tells x amount of lies in x minutes. Surely the repubs arent above that. I want fair and balanced news.



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spaceguy on 05 October 2012
sethnintendo said:
spaceguy said:
sethnintendo said:

Well when you don't have much else going for you then you must lie. Both candidates such in my opinion. American is void of true leadership. Our politicians are all tools. I don't expect a true leader to come unless we form a different type of government.

edit - my post became Italicized for some reason?

I think Jill stein would be a good answer but she will not win.

I like someone like Gary Johnson but even he isn't the answer.  The problem with USA is that there are tough choices ahead.  We have to take care of the big three (Medicare, Social Security, and Military).  However, if you even propose to cut any of these programs you are chop meat.  USA needs to grow the fuck up and grow some balls. 

Gary Johhson had some good ideas, however he wants to cut 43% off of everything, without asking for the rich to pay there fair share. When people are living off investment and not contributing jobs, they should have to pay a higher tax rate then 15%



spaceguy on 05 October 2012
BenVTrigger said:
Nah its not and Im not sayin Mitt is the best choice either

But I dont see how anyone defends Obama anymore. The mans a failed president, the worst in my lifetime, and is leading the slowest recovery in US history.

Im not even a big Romney supporter at all but Obama is beyond awful

actually the depression took over ten years to recover from and it wasn't until 2nd world war that we did. Also you would rather go back to someone who's policies mimick bush's. Those are the same policies that got us in this mess in the first place. Or should I say the The full controll of government by bush and a republican congress.