1080p @120FPS (aka PC). Kisses.

I'll see if I can find it later. I have to pop out now. But I am pretty sure it was a redesign using less watts and different figures not performing as optimal as before but still beastly.

Sure Forza and some shooters won't have a problem running at 1080p60.

I don't think most titles will though. Most titles this gen struggle with 720p30. It's a 4.5x increase in pixels per second from 720p30 to 1080p60. That's a 1.5x bigger jump from last gens 640x480 30fps to 720p30 (3x increase in pixel count). Sure with the same engines as this gen it shouldn't be a problem, but I doubt the new engines will be able to maintain 1080p60.

I believe it will.

There was only 4 years between the Xbox 1 nad 360. So tech didnt change as much as it will with the 8 year gap between 360 and nextbox. With bigger advances in tech between consoles I believe Nextbox and possibly PS4 will without a doubt have much increased visuals with 1080p @60fps.

Wii U with be the odd one out. It will probably have less effects and smaller levels at 720p @ 60 fps.

I have believe that nextbox will be fine doing it.

I hope you're right, but there are too many arguments against it.

Price first of all, can't have another loss leading expensive console in this economic climate.
For the nextbox packing in Kinect 2.0 will mean less room for tech elsewhere, and well Sony definitely can't afford another $200 dollar loss per console or launching at $600.

Processor speed has remained pretty much constant, 3.2 ghz is still on the fast side today. More cores are the norm nowadays, yet it takes a lot more effort to optimize the software for multiple cores.

Developers will want to win over gamers again with more detailed graphics and more effects. However it will be more difficult this time, a lot more effort needs to be spend to make a ps2 -> 360 kind of jump again. 720p will be an obvious choice to cram in more effects.

There was 6 years between the ps2 and ps3. The xbox came a bit later and the 360 early. The full potential of the xbox was never really reached, it's a better comparison to take the time between ps2 and ps3. If ps4 launches in 2014 it's only 1.3 times as long as the gap between ps2 and ps3, while the required resolution jump is 1.5x as that between ps2 and ps3.

1080p30 or 720p60 is what we're going to get. 1080p60 in some racing games and a few shooters, It won't be the norm.
Xbla should do fine at 1080p60, heck maybe we'll get a few 2160p30 arcade games too. Yet looking at what all the next gen engines are promising already I don't believe we'll get 1080p60 AAA games just yet. I hope I'm wrong, I love 1080p60, and hate unnecassary effects.

I play Battlefield 3 at 1080p and 45-50fps, and I feel like it's a very sweet spot. If I turn all graphical settings up to maximum, however, my fps drops to 30-35 and I can feel a very noticeable blur when I run or turn around quickly.

Since that blur and choppiness would ruin the gaming experience more for me than a slight decrease in resolution, I chose 720p and 60fps.

Actually both; both "settings" fits perfectly with certain games. But I also like both combined. Which is why I can't wait til the next Super Smash Bros is out. Since the franchise has been very consistent in 60fps, (save for the moments when so much shit happens at once) and the graphics have been perfect throughout the generations (not too bland, but not too over the top) I think It might be one of the first/few games to achieve both quality in resolution and framerate.

That's PC though. With a mouse you make faster movements than with an analog, making a lower frame-rate much more noticeable. If you use analog sticks on a game running at 30fps with motion blur it looks super smooth to me.

Perhaps you're right, I was only considering my PC experiences. I honestly don't know which console games run in 30fps or 60fps when I play them, which would actually be a testament to your point.

Oh its noticeable.

Play Rage then play something like COD or Halo or Killzone.

Really  noticeable.

Same with Forza 4. Play that then play ssomething like Shift or Grid. So noticeable. Then theres games like GOW3 which I believe averages 45? And GT5 is 60 although it dips as low as 45 which is noticeable in a driving game alot more.

I think its easy to notice console games at 60fps. They are really smooth.