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I think people exaggerate how much of a disappointment FFXIII was. I mean it was still a good game.

RE6 on the other hand... judging from the demo at least does not seem to do anything special in a single area and is just shocking considering the high standards Capcom usually holds RE to.



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Runa216 said:
I don't understand people saying Final Fantasy sucked after IX. X had some things it was missing (world map, mostly), and XII did things a little different, but both were fantastic games with tonnes of things to do, fantastic gameplay, and awesome characters. X has one of the best stories in the games, and when it comes to sheer volume of content, I'd say XII is the best in the series.

Don'tknow why people don't like them.

Because summons are only useful in combat to block status effects/big hits and the ocasional Anima's turbo attack. Three characters deal more damage than a summoned guy in the long run.

Not being able to cast buffs (except Hastega) and heal (unless you use items) properly.

Very easy (Free auto-life for the final boss, really?).

Random item drops for random characters with random slots and random abilities from bosses (since most abilities are bad and you can't remove them or add slots this means that you'll get crap 99% of the time).

Basic Attack is better than any offensive skill or magic (even with Doublecast).

Doublecast doesn't work with white magic (why, the game is too easy anyway, let me have some fun).

Lack of multitarget offensive magic.

Every enemy from random encounters is designed to be killed with a certain character using a certain attack (if you do it right, you'll kill them in one hit).

Three enemies per random battle at max except in the Calm Lands (and the 4th enemy can be killed in one hit stealing it).

The last two things I listed combined + some party management and regular enemies won't be able to touch you.

 

Time is running out so I'm missing stuff for sure.



S.T.A.G.E. said:


Regardless of whether you liked RE5 and Final Fantasy XIII, the fact remains that they arent the inspired titles the franchise creators (who both departed which started the decline of the franchises). They arent the same in quality and are trying to cover it up with linearity, flash and flair. Dead Space is closer in feeling to the feeling got playing Resident Evil as a child. It was chilling and horrific at times but since Shinji Mikami left Capcom Resident Evil lost its inspiration and turned into an action game.


1) Why is linearity often seen so negative. Linearity is THE best way to tell a thrilling and compelling story. I have yet to see a really good non-linear game. Neither Rockstar-Games like GTA or WRPGs like Oblivion had a memorable main story arc... they feel more like a collection of sidequests.

2) Both franchises are really old and you can't compare the technical possibilities of the PS1 with the PS3.

3) I feel that Final Fantasy X was a huge leap forward. They introduced Voice Acting and the whole storytelling became more mature. And that was always an intention of Final Fantasy... Storytelling>gameplay (maybe FF 6 was an exception, because in that game they have put many Party members without important story relevance.)

4) I sometimes have the feeling that people exaggerate the intensity. I never felt Resident Evil THAT chilling or horrific. Ok, there are sometimes Events where you are surprised. Like the scene where the dogs jumps thorugh the window. But that is a simple effect when there is silence and then suddenly there is a noise. But thats not a very lasting effect.

I remember 2 Years ago when I replayed the first three Resident Evil games and my wife was watching. I told her that she migth be scared because she do not like horror movies. But to my astonishment she started laughing when she heard the first zombies screaming... she wasn't scared at all during the 3 games. The "thrill" of the game relied on ammo shortage, but as soon as you got used to not killing everything in the game you realized, that you could run from most enemies without troubles.

It was similar to Demon's Souls. I heard so many gamer that they were literally sweating when they walked around the next corner because they feared a trap or a lurking enemy... I even got the Platinum Trophy in that Game but i never felt that kind of thrill. Ok, sometimes I died, but you could always got a second chance to get your souls back.

The same thing goes for the riddles. Resident Evils riddles never were that hard. Silent Hill had tougher riddles back then.



Final Fantasy for sure.



FF is by far the one who fall the lowest but the ppl Mikami left back after he left do their best to surpass FF & make RE the KING of FAIL & SHAME it seems they really want that crown SE earn with all their past failures for the past 10 years after FFX & it shows.

All in all my disappointment is off the roof, 3 of my all time favorite game franchise if we add SH also release one failure after another, what we expected to see from a new FF or RE game is no more, now is all about fast paced action, sparkling graphics & videos, one QTE after another & a lot of shooting..

Yep that's what devs believe we want, all the elements that make me fall in love with those 2 games like amazing story, lovable/likable characters, exploration/secrets, puzzle solving, atmosphere, turn based battles/to have control of all your chars, scares & many-many more is something long forgotten now.

For me personally those 2 games r dead & imo nothing is gonna change "unless" Sagakuchi & Mikami return & as I dont see that happening the only thing I can do is w8 patiently for the next "TRUE" Surviving Horror game Mikami prepare, I hope it wont take too long I cant w8 to get it on my hands :) as for Sagakuchi I hope he wont stop making JRPGs anytime soon.



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FF for sure. For me, literally, half the games in the series are garbage. 7 is the last one I really enjoyed and wasn't super disappointed in. 8 is a love it or hate it sort of game, and I hate it. 9 was ok, but I just wasn't feeling it. 10 sucked in every conceivable way. 11 wasn't really an FF game due to online. 12 was pretty good, but annoying and bitchy characters ruined it for me. 13 was a disaster on every conceivable level. 14 is online again.

With the direction they took with FF13, I wonder why square makes games at all anymore. Just make a movie. The complete linearity of the game basically means your playing a movie with long monotonous breaks in between cut scenes anyway. Just do what you dream, Square! Make movies. I might actually enjoy your work again that way.



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Crono141 said:
FF for sure. For me, literally, half the games in the series are garbage. 7 is the last one I really enjoyed and wasn't super disappointed in. 8 is a love it or hate it sort of game, and I hate it. 9 was ok, but I just wasn't feeling it. 10 sucked in every conceivable way. 11 wasn't really an FF game due to online. 12 was pretty good, but annoying and bitchy characters ruined it for me. 13 was a disaster on every conceivable level. 14 is online again.

With the direction they took with FF13, I wonder why square makes games at all anymore. Just make a movie. The complete linearity of the game basically means your playing a movie with long monotonous breaks in between cut scenes anyway. Just do what you dream, Square! Make movies. I might actually enjoy your work again that way.


Lol. The final fantasy fanbase is so hilarious.



Wagram said:
Crono141 said:
FF for sure. For me, literally, half the games in the series are garbage. 7 is the last one I really enjoyed and wasn't super disappointed in. 8 is a love it or hate it sort of game, and I hate it. 9 was ok, but I just wasn't feeling it. 10 sucked in every conceivable way. 11 wasn't really an FF game due to online. 12 was pretty good, but annoying and bitchy characters ruined it for me. 13 was a disaster on every conceivable level. 14 is online again.

With the direction they took with FF13, I wonder why square makes games at all anymore. Just make a movie. The complete linearity of the game basically means your playing a movie with long monotonous breaks in between cut scenes anyway. Just do what you dream, Square! Make movies. I might actually enjoy your work again that way.


Lol. The final fantasy fanbase is so hilarious.

I can't think of one person I know that actually played FF11, or 14 for that matter.



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Crono141 said:
Wagram said:
Crono141 said:
FF for sure. For me, literally, half the games in the series are garbage. 7 is the last one I really enjoyed and wasn't super disappointed in. 8 is a love it or hate it sort of game, and I hate it. 9 was ok, but I just wasn't feeling it. 10 sucked in every conceivable way. 11 wasn't really an FF game due to online. 12 was pretty good, but annoying and bitchy characters ruined it for me. 13 was a disaster on every conceivable level. 14 is online again.

With the direction they took with FF13, I wonder why square makes games at all anymore. Just make a movie. The complete linearity of the game basically means your playing a movie with long monotonous breaks in between cut scenes anyway. Just do what you dream, Square! Make movies. I might actually enjoy your work again that way.


Lol. The final fantasy fanbase is so hilarious.

I can't think of one person I know that actually played FF11, or 14 for that matter.

Doesn't make the comment not stupid. Final Fantasy XI has the title for the most revenue brought in for the series. The storylines are captivating for an MMO, and it is definitely Final Fantasy. FFXIV on the other hand, is not a perfect game. However just because it's an online title doesn't make it an exclusion. Developers make the series, and if they determine a main entry is online. Then it is online.



Wagram said:
Crono141 said:
Wagram said:
Crono141 said:
FF for sure. For me, literally, half the games in the series are garbage. 7 is the last one I really enjoyed and wasn't super disappointed in. 8 is a love it or hate it sort of game, and I hate it. 9 was ok, but I just wasn't feeling it. 10 sucked in every conceivable way. 11 wasn't really an FF game due to online. 12 was pretty good, but annoying and bitchy characters ruined it for me. 13 was a disaster on every conceivable level. 14 is online again.

With the direction they took with FF13, I wonder why square makes games at all anymore. Just make a movie. The complete linearity of the game basically means your playing a movie with long monotonous breaks in between cut scenes anyway. Just do what you dream, Square! Make movies. I might actually enjoy your work again that way.


Lol. The final fantasy fanbase is so hilarious.

I can't think of one person I know that actually played FF11, or 14 for that matter.

Doesn't make the comment not stupid. Final Fantasy XI has the title for the most revenue brought in for the series. The storylines are captivating for an MMO, and it is definitely Final Fantasy. FFXIV on the other hand, is not a perfect game. However just because it's an online title doesn't make it an exclusion. Developers make the series, and if they determine a main entry is online. Then it is online.

Captivating for an MMO/=captivating for a FF fan up till FF11 existed.

But then again, I've just about hated every FF game since 7.



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