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sethnintendo on 02 October 2012
the2real4mafol said:
Looks like a nice shop there, i'm surprised a microsoft shop didn't exist before though

considering even Nintendo has a world store



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Scoobes on 02 October 2012
dallas said:
famousringo said:
dallas said:
Well selnor, you can only go so far by copying the competition, and if MSFT wants to succeed, then they will have to do something original, which hasn't happened in a while unfortunately for them.

I hardly dare to guess whether Windows 8 will succeed or not, but it certainly is original. There's nothing quite like it in the mobile space, and in the desktop/laptop space it's the most radical departure since 1984.

It might not pay off in the end, but at least give MS some credit for gambling with one of the greatest monopolies in modern history.


Credit for gambling??  I don't award for having balls, but rather only praise for good results.  Keep in mind that the first guy over the trenches always had the biggest balls, but he died the soonest as well.  

And ive read some reviews on windows 8 and in summary, they arent great for desktop PCs, unless one is going to get some touchscreen monitor or what have you.  The whole strategy of having the OS built a little bit for the PC and a little bit for the tablets in the end satisfy neither.  I could care less if tablets have grown, the biggest market is still PCs and Microsoft is ditching it. Apple and Google could care less.

From the reviews I've read it's a little bit PC and a lot for touch screen mobile devices. If you have a phone or tablet with Windows it'll likely be a decent  experience. Everything I've read about the desktop version sounds like it'll be bad for PC devs and a complete annoyance for users.




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the2real4mafol on 03 October 2012
sethnintendo said:
the2real4mafol said:
Looks like a nice shop there, i'm surprised a microsoft shop didn't exist before though

considering even Nintendo has a world store

I hope both come shops come to London soon, just so I can look around.



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Zappykins on 03 October 2012

There is one down the street from me. It's pretty cool, and the walls are all window and change every now and then. You sort of get a better idea what the company is about and what it is trying to do. And what things will be more like in the future.

It was the first place I saw a Surface (the big one, before the tablets that are coming out.) And the first play I saw Kinect.

It is sort of like this - only you can talk to computers too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cf7IL_eZ38



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 03 October 2012
famousringo said:
dallas said:
famousringo said:
dallas said:
Well selnor, you can only go so far by copying the competition, and if MSFT wants to succeed, then they will have to do something original, which hasn't happened in a while unfortunately for them.

I hardly dare to guess whether Windows 8 will succeed or not, but it certainly is original. There's nothing quite like it in the mobile space, and in the desktop/laptop space it's the most radical departure since 1984.

It might not pay off in the end, but at least give MS some credit for gambling with one of the greatest monopolies in modern history.


Credit for gambling??  I don't award for having balls, but rather only praise for good results.  Keep in mind that the first guy over the trenches always had the biggest balls, but he died the soonest as well.  

And ive read some reviews on windows 8 and in summary, they arent great for desktop PCs, unless one is going to get some touchscreen monitor or what have you.  The whole strategy of having the OS built a little bit for the PC and a little bit for the tablets in the end satisfy neither.  I could care less if tablets have grown, the biggest market is still PCs and Microsoft is ditching it. Apple and Google could care less.


In that case you need to make up your mind: Do you want Microsoft to be original or do you want them to be successful?

You complain about both, but Microsoft's most successful years are also its least original years, so I suggest you pick one set of goalposts instead of moving them back and forth at a whim.

Way to put him in a corner...



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dallas on 03 October 2012
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
famousringo said:
dallas said:
famousringo said:
dallas said:
Well selnor, you can only go so far by copying the competition, and if MSFT wants to succeed, then they will have to do something original, which hasn't happened in a while unfortunately for them.

I hardly dare to guess whether Windows 8 will succeed or not, but it certainly is original. There's nothing quite like it in the mobile space, and in the desktop/laptop space it's the most radical departure since 1984.

It might not pay off in the end, but at least give MS some credit for gambling with one of the greatest monopolies in modern history.


Credit for gambling??  I don't award for having balls, but rather only praise for good results.  Keep in mind that the first guy over the trenches always had the biggest balls, but he died the soonest as well.  

And ive read some reviews on windows 8 and in summary, they arent great for desktop PCs, unless one is going to get some touchscreen monitor or what have you.  The whole strategy of having the OS built a little bit for the PC and a little bit for the tablets in the end satisfy neither.  I could care less if tablets have grown, the biggest market is still PCs and Microsoft is ditching it. Apple and Google could care less.


In that case you need to make up your mind: Do you want Microsoft to be original or do you want them to be successful?

You complain about both, but Microsoft's most successful years are also its least original years, so I suggest you pick one set of goalposts instead of moving them back and forth at a whim.

Way to put him in a corner...


He's just confusing the issue, I'm not complaining thateither strategies are bad, but rather that doing both at the same time looks like a losing proposition