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F0X said:
MDMAlliance said:
Honestly, I don't think it's fair to try to upscale the games and compare them when you're doing these comparison tests. Also, the specs of the 3DS is actually quite better than the GC and Wii in many regards. Many developers have even said that on a visual standpoint the 3DS is actually better than the Wii. This is what I'm basing what I said off of. It's a more capable system, but you guys seem to say "oh, but the screen" like that makes it any less powerful.

To the guy who said /sarcasm about the Monster Hunter thing, Monster Hunter actually did look better on the 3DS than the Wii. However, that's not the only example. There are quite a few examples where the 3DS version outperforms the Wii version of a game on pretty much all levels, and it renders them in 3D and has a top and bottom screen as well (which may not take up much power, but it does do something). I'm quite sure all technology in the 3DS is more modern than the ones in GC and Wii. I believe it's 2006 and newer tech.


3D definitely takes up a good chuck of the 3DS's power, so it would be unfair to base our judgement on 2D screenshots of 3D games. Monster Hunter is a great example, especially considering how much better the MH games look on 3DS when compared to PSP...

I'd say the same for Kingdom Hearts. Birth By Sleep compared favorably to the PS2 KH games, but I find KH3D to be noticably better. Particularly in terms of environment and character rendering.


I can't exactly tell if what you're saying is for or against what I'm saying.  However, even with the resources taken up with the 3D the 3DS is outperforming its Wii counterparts and developers have agreed that, at least on a visual stand point, the 3DS is a more capable system and easier to deal with when trying to make better graphics.  



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I find it incredible that sony can release a portable that is almost as powerful as the 360 when Nintendo has trouble beating the 360 with it's next generation console.



Paul said:
I find it incredible that sony can release a portable that is almost as powerful as the 360 when Nintendo has trouble beating the 360 with it's next generation console.


I would agree that the power on the Vita is close to the 360, but it's definitely weaker.  However, the Wii U isn't having ANY trouble beating the 360.  The Wii U quite clearly overpowers the 360.



Paul said:
I find it incredible that sony can release a portable that is almost as powerful as the 360 when Nintendo has trouble beating the 360 with it's next generation console.

I find it incredible that you can post 2 statements and have both of them wrong.



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Most 3DS games look worse than your average PSP game if you ask me. The only one I feel actually demonstrates the supposed power is Resident Evil: Revelations.



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TheBardsSong said:
Most 3DS games look worse than your average PSP game if you ask me. The only one I feel actually demonstrates the supposed power is Resident Evil: Revelations.


Do you even own a 3DS?  I own a 3DS, and I have 12 games for the 3DS.  I really disagree with you completely on that statement.



lilbroex said:

Show me a Wii game that looks better on the 3DS and I'll show you a Wii game that was ported from the 3DS to the Wii  with no effort put into it.

Comapre Sonic Generation 3DS to Sonic Colors, Mario Kart Wii to Mario Kart 7, Monkey Ball Wii to Monkey Ball 3DS.

As far as I'm aware, we're talking about power, not graphical capabilities. Wii isn't capable of displaying in 3D, nor on two screens simultaneously, nor running home menu functions while suspending gameplay. Streetpass, gyroscope, cameras, touch screens. The 3DS is a powerful machine. You can't *see* how powerful it is just by looking at its graphics.



the_dengle said:
lilbroex said:

Show me a Wii game that looks better on the 3DS and I'll show you a Wii game that was ported from the 3DS to the Wii  with no effort put into it.

Comapre Sonic Generation 3DS to Sonic Colors, Mario Kart Wii to Mario Kart 7, Monkey Ball Wii to Monkey Ball 3DS.

As far as I'm aware, we're talking about power, not graphical capabilities. Wii isn't capable of displaying in 3D, nor on two screens simultaneously, nor running home menu functions while suspending gameplay. Streetpass, gyroscope, cameras, touch screens. The 3DS is a powerful machine. You can't *see* how powerful it is just by looking at its graphics.


But the graphical capabilities are higher as well, even if the resolution is limited by its screen quality.  3D is also a form of graphical quality, but I was actually even talking about just 2D.  

edit: also, the Mario Kart Wii vs Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 7 is much better looking and runs at 60FPS.



MDMAlliance said:
F0X said:
MDMAlliance said:
Honestly, I don't think it's fair to try to upscale the games and compare them when you're doing these comparison tests. Also, the specs of the 3DS is actually quite better than the GC and Wii in many regards. Many developers have even said that on a visual standpoint the 3DS is actually better than the Wii. This is what I'm basing what I said off of. It's a more capable system, but you guys seem to say "oh, but the screen" like that makes it any less powerful.

To the guy who said /sarcasm about the Monster Hunter thing, Monster Hunter actually did look better on the 3DS than the Wii. However, that's not the only example. There are quite a few examples where the 3DS version outperforms the Wii version of a game on pretty much all levels, and it renders them in 3D and has a top and bottom screen as well (which may not take up much power, but it does do something). I'm quite sure all technology in the 3DS is more modern than the ones in GC and Wii. I believe it's 2006 and newer tech.


3D definitely takes up a good chuck of the 3DS's power, so it would be unfair to base our judgement on 2D screenshots of 3D games. Monster Hunter is a great example, especially considering how much better the MH games look on 3DS when compared to PSP...

I'd say the same for Kingdom Hearts. Birth By Sleep compared favorably to the PS2 KH games, but I find KH3D to be noticably better. Particularly in terms of environment and character rendering.


I can't exactly tell if what you're saying is for or against what I'm saying.  However, even with the resources taken up with the 3D the 3DS is outperforming its Wii counterparts and developers have agreed that, at least on a visual stand point, the 3DS is a more capable system and easier to deal with when trying to make better graphics.  

The specs of the 3DS (which is what we are discussing in this thread, supposedly) is a seperate issue from how the games actually look, I believe. I mean to say that the 3D effect impacts performance, but has no bearing on a discussion about raw power (or at least should not be considered a negative). In fact, I think it's impressive how the 3DS can produce graphics comparable to Wii/GC but in 3D. It's great. If we're taking about the perforance of the 3DS in practice as opposed to a discussion solely about the specs, it would be unwise to point at 2D screenshots as evidence that the 3DS is, at least spec-wise, less powerful than other systems.



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F0X said:

The specs of the 3DS (which is what we are discussing in this thread, supposedly) is a seperate issue from how the games actually look, I believe. I mean to say that the 3D effect impacts performance, but has no bearing on a discussion about raw power (or at least should not be considered a negative). In fact, I think it's impressive how the 3DS can produce graphics comparable to Wii/GC but in 3D. It's great. If we're taking about the perforance of the 3DS in practice as opposed to a discussion solely about the specs, it would be unwise to point at 2D screenshots as evidence that the 3DS is, at least spec-wise, less powerful than other systems.


Less powerful in what way are we saying?  The 3DS has more RAM, a dualcore rather than a single core processor (though clocked at a lower speed) than the other system, an arguably better CPU, and more modern tech.  I'm not sure what we're looking at at this point.  

The total RAM used for the Wii is less than the 3DS and the amount used for games are the same I believe.  VRAM is higher in the 3DS, and the 3DS uses a superior FCRAM.  Though the reported clock speeds of the Wii are significantly higher, the fact that the 3DS is a handheld and is using more modern tech (can do more with less), it isn't exactly needed to have higher clocking speeds.  If you wanted to compare the clock speeds, the reported clock speeds for the Wii are potentially higher than the Vita.  So are you saying the Wii is potentially more powerful than the Vita based off of certain speculations, especially if we want to ignore all the points I made?