i bought a magic the gathering t-shirt and a nice hat for my av and i only visit occasionally to see what they do to it,i'd be quite happy to take my avvy shopiing for games and movies in a virtual world like home but then i am bit strange i guess but surely not alone

o_O.Q said: DaRev said: o_O.Q said: DaRev said: Home is one of Sony's biggest failures, and is comparable to what the Vitual Boy was to Nintendo. Not that either is bad, just that both were over-ambitious. lol do you care to elaborate on that? Well if Home was any form of a success, Sony being who they are would be promoting it widely, like at E3 or with tv commercials, but I have seen any such promotion of Home.  The PS Move, the failure that it is, gets more promotion than Home. Going back to the OP, I can't see how Home has made Sony any money considering how it's almost never talked about, now lets all do the running man and chase virtual girls around while we watch the next Sony movie trailer lol you aren't really elaborating on what was said at all, you said that home was over ambitious and that it ranks as high in terms of failure as the virtual boy how was/is home over ambitious? how does home compare to the virtual boy? etc secondly home not being advertised automatically means it doeesn't make money? how have you drawn that conclusion?

1) It's over ambitious because it attemps to create a whole social world outside of regular gaming. You have your own home/appartment, you go to the movies, to the arcade, and whole lot of other stuff, all outside of regular gaming. Sony it seems expected people to stop gaming and go socialize in Home, that sounds over ambitious to me. Plus if Home was suppose to be the equivalent of Xbox live, then it does seem over ambitious as Live presents a much simpler means of gamer interaction with each other.

2) Both Home and Vitual boy failed to apeal to mainstream gamers, I don't know anyone of my friends that use home (or a Virtual Boy). Even the Sony fans I know never use it. Maybe you know a lots of Xbox and Wii fabs that do, but I don't

3) Automatically, no, but it's an indication.

Kresnik said: DaRev said: Well if Home was any form of a success, Sony being who they are would be promoting it widely, like at E3 or with tv commercials, but I have seen any such promotion of Home.  The PS Move, the failure that it is, gets more promotion than Home. Going back to the OP, I can't see how Home has made Sony any money considering how it's almost never talked about, now lets all do the running man and chase virtual girls around while we watch the next Sony movie trailer lol I don't... I don't understand. Sources indicate that Sony have made a lot of money from Home, and you think it hasn't made them any money because you don't see it? You're entitled to your opinion, if you think Home is a bad idea/poor service that's fine.  I don't particularly think it's too great.  But to mock all the people who do actually use it isn't really particularly fair.  It does what it does well.  Whether or not that appeals to you personally is a different matter.

So what is it that Home does well?

DaRev said: So what is it that Home does well?

Making money, apparently!

I found one website, that doesn't have 'playstation' in title that did a poll. It opines that Home was a failure.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.151582-Poll-Playstation-Home-Failure-or-Success

Plus, I don’t think because a few people like something doesn’t mean it is a success or equates that it is making a profit. Next thing people in here will be confirming is that just because Nintendo made SOME money off the Virtual boy it was profitable. Nope, it was a failure just as much as Home is, and every other failure that doesn’t live up to its creator’s full expectation, regardless of how small a number of sales or fans it manages to get.

DaRev said: o_O.Q said: DaRev said: o_O.Q said: DaRev said: Home is one of Sony's biggest failures, and is comparable to what the Vitual Boy was to Nintendo. Not that either is bad, just that both were over-ambitious. lol do you care to elaborate on that? Well if Home was any form of a success, Sony being who they are would be promoting it widely, like at E3 or with tv commercials, but I have seen any such promotion of Home.  The PS Move, the failure that it is, gets more promotion than Home. Going back to the OP, I can't see how Home has made Sony any money considering how it's almost never talked about, now lets all do the running man and chase virtual girls around while we watch the next Sony movie trailer lol you aren't really elaborating on what was said at all, you said that home was over ambitious and that it ranks as high in terms of failure as the virtual boy how was/is home over ambitious? how does home compare to the virtual boy? etc secondly home not being advertised automatically means it doeesn't make money? how have you drawn that conclusion? 1) It's over ambitious because it attemps to create a whole social world outside of regular gaming. You have your own home/appartment, you go to the movies, to the arcade, and whole lot of other stuff, all outside of regular gaming. Sony it seems expected people to stop gaming and go socialize in Home, that sounds over ambitious to me. Plus if Home was suppose to be the equivalent of Xbox live, then it does seem over ambitious as Live presents a much simpler means of gamer interaction with each other. 2) Both Home and Vitual boy failed to apeal to mainstream gamers, I don't know anyone of my friends that use home (or a Virtual Boy). Even the Sony fans I know never use it. Maybe you know a lots of Xbox and Wii fabs that do, but I don't 3) Automatically, no, but it's an indication.

"Sony it seems expected people to stop gaming and go socialize in Home, that sounds over ambitious to me"

lol so sony the manufacturer of the GAMES console which runs home wanted people to stop playing games?

 

"if Home was suppose to be the equivalent of Xbox live"

doesn't it seem a bit nonsensical to you to compare home to live?... wouldn't it make more sense to compare psn to live?

 

"Both Home and Vitual boy failed to apeal to mainstream gamers"

when was it said that home was targetted at mainstream gamers?

DaRev said: I found one website, that doesn't have 'playstation' in title that did a poll. It opines that Home was a failure. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.151582-Poll-Playstation-Home-Failure-or-Success Plus, I don’t think because a few people like something doesn’t mean it is a success or equates that it is making a profit. Next thing people in here will be confirming is that just because Nintendo made SOME money off the Virtual boy it was profitable. Nope, it was a failure just as much as Home is, and every other failure that doesn’t live up to its creator’s full expectation, regardless of how small a number of sales or fans it manages to get.

Yes, because a poll of randoms qualifies as a mark of success instead of actual useage figures. Not to mention said poll only features less than 30 people. With such comments like

I think it failed rather. Looked interesting and all at first, but kinda became boring very quickly. Also, isn't it still in the Beta stage? I haven't been on Home for a while so I don't really know.

I've yet to try it out, but I assume I won't like it much, considering it just seems like an incredibly boring crossover of an MMORPG and the Sims, neither of which I'm a big fan of.

I think it's safe to conclude that this poll is not representative of whether or not Home is a success or a failure. Because that thread is no different to any other thread that's been on here.

o_O.Q said: DaRev said: o_O.Q said: DaRev said: o_O.Q said: DaRev said: Home is one of Sony's biggest failures, and is comparable to what the Vitual Boy was to Nintendo. Not that either is bad, just that both were over-ambitious. lol do you care to elaborate on that? Well if Home was any form of a success, Sony being who they are would be promoting it widely, like at E3 or with tv commercials, but I have seen any such promotion of Home.  The PS Move, the failure that it is, gets more promotion than Home. Going back to the OP, I can't see how Home has made Sony any money considering how it's almost never talked about, now lets all do the running man and chase virtual girls around while we watch the next Sony movie trailer lol you aren't really elaborating on what was said at all, you said that home was over ambitious and that it ranks as high in terms of failure as the virtual boy how was/is home over ambitious? how does home compare to the virtual boy? etc secondly home not being advertised automatically means it doeesn't make money? how have you drawn that conclusion? 1) It's over ambitious because it attemps to create a whole social world outside of regular gaming. You have your own home/appartment, you go to the movies, to the arcade, and whole lot of other stuff, all outside of regular gaming. Sony it seems expected people to stop gaming and go socialize in Home, that sounds over ambitious to me. Plus if Home was suppose to be the equivalent of Xbox live, then it does seem over ambitious as Live presents a much simpler means of gamer interaction with each other. 2) Both Home and Vitual boy failed to apeal to mainstream gamers, I don't know anyone of my friends that use home (or a Virtual Boy). Even the Sony fans I know never use it. Maybe you know a lots of Xbox and Wii fabs that do, but I don't 3) Automatically, no, but it's an indication. "Sony it seems expected people to stop gaming and go socialize in Home, that sounds over ambitious to me" lol so sony the manufacturer of the GAMES console which runs home wanted people to stop playing games?   "if Home was suppose to be the equivalent of Xbox live" doesn't it seem a bit nonsensical to you to compare home to live?... wouldn't it make more sense to compare psn to live?   "Both Home and Vitual boy failed to apeal to mainstream gamers" when was it said that home was targetted at mainstream gamers?

Exactly, Home was a silly idea because it proposed to take up way too much of a gamers often very limited time for playing games and propse that they instead do the running man and wait in line to play virtual games at a virtual arcade - serious, what a silly and over ambitious idea lol.

Home can be compared to Live as there are both propose to provide gamers with gaming and non-gaming experiances outside of stand-alone games.

Ha ha, you telling me that Home was not meant for mainstream gamers? Well no wonder it didn't make any money. No wonder it is a failure and fit for a small minority that think it's better to do the virtual running man and watch Sony movie trailers all day than play actaul games! lol What a silly and over ambitious idea.

Ajescent said: DaRev said: I found one website, that doesn't have 'playstation' in title that did a poll. It opines that Home was a failure. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.151582-Poll-Playstation-Home-Failure-or-Success Plus, I don’t think because a few people like something doesn’t mean it is a success or equates that it is making a profit. Next thing people in here will be confirming is that just because Nintendo made SOME money off the Virtual boy it was profitable. Nope, it was a failure just as much as Home is, and every other failure that doesn’t live up to its creator’s full expectation, regardless of how small a number of sales or fans it manages to get. Yes, because a poll of randoms qualifies as a mark of success instead of actual useage figures. Not to mention said poll only features less than 30 people. With such comments like I think it failed rather. Looked interesting and all at first, but kinda became boring very quickly. Also, isn't it still in the Beta stage? I haven't been on Home for a while so I don't really know. I've yet to try it out, but I assume I won't like it much, considering it just seems like an incredibly boring crossover of an MMORPG and the Sims, neither of which I'm a big fan of. I think it's safe to conclude that this poll is not representative of whether or not Home is a success or a failure. Because that thread is no different to any other thread that's been on here.

right,...like you got definitive proof that it was in fact not a failure. It's a discussion, I support my point with whatever means I please, you're free to do the same.

I think it did made Sony some money, because there are companies like Loot and Lockwood they are doing almost just PS Home content for years and they haven't went belly up yet..Why would you do this if business isn't viable. So i think it must be viable somehow. Even if the teams are very small, a few guys, but it was probably non the less viable.