Baron said:
Just answer me this. Do you trully believe a stock 4850 can outperform a stock 4850 with a faster cpu? Or a heavily overclocked 4850. When you started debating you even said the 4850 scores were in the 9500+ department... What happened to that? And I never said the e6760 doesn't have the same chip as the 6570 or 6750m btw. I just said it clearly performs a lot better. As evident by it's Vantage score. Whether that's because of architectural enhancements or not doesn't really matter. Seeing as Vantage the only benchmark result we have of the e6760 and how that's far higher than the 6570 I'll compare that score to other cards only. I won't look at weaker cards and say "That's what it's capable off".
You're absolutely right. An embedded solution has absolutely no advantages compared to a regular expansian card... What was AMD thinking when they developed it. Don't they realize customers will just buy the 6750m instead? Seeing as that's entirely the same.... Right? |
Actually I've started with the statement that 4850 is around 1.4x more powerfull than e6760, way before I actually posted that 9500+ result....which I admit was hasty mistake on my part, cause I haven't looked at details of those results. Now, I know where you got the idea that e6760 is as powerfull as 4850....I have seen this statement back in the past, and I'm sure I'll be seeing it again....old 4850 drivers were giving really shity Vantage results, and since that's only thing people can compare e6760 against (without doing some indepth research), they jump to conclusion, without checking other sources. Now, I went through insane amount of scores in 3DMark database with all sort of different CPUs and what I stated here is what I've seen - GPU score of stock 4850 is around 7300-7400 on average. Low scores you gave me (and I witnessed on numerous occasions) all have "It looks like your PC should score better" message, so excuse me for not taking them as given.
As for e6760 performing better than 6570/6650m/6750m...it doesn't...all you have is one (manufacturer's) P score, and your belief that there is some miracoulous enhacement involved making it something different than generic Turks based GPU, with only one difference of having memory embedded on same BGA...though it's the same 480:24:8 config, with exactly same GFLOPS performance as 6650m/6750m (or downclocked 6570) and exactly same memory bandwith as 6750m (600/800) or downclocked 6570 GDDR5 (600/800). What's the difference between it and mobile solutions? It has embedded memory on it - smaller form factor and low-power usage optimization. But (here's the shocker)....same performance.
Now, as I told you before, I couldn't care less. Someone back in June stated it's clocked at 800+ (essentialy becoming 6670) and that would put it in 4850 teritory. So, no matter what, I hope you enjoy your WiiU as much as I would (eventually) mine....










