It's sad really, you have Sony fans saying Ninty should copy them. People ask them why would they copy a company that is currently in last? All they can bring up is how lucky Sony was in the past. There's a reason for why the PS3, PSP, PS Vita weren't able to accomplish such feats. Sony can no longer be bailed out by 3rd parties so now they are getting their ass handed to them. Sony's most current platform is performing terrible and yet they still believe Sony is on top of the world. Another posters brings up how Sony makes games that they love as if I give a crap and says it like Ninty should start doing things like that even though those Sony games sell like crap. If Ninty wanted a game to sell like crap they would've repeated Wii Music or copied Sony's entire library of games.

What about wanting Nintendo to copy a game like Shadow of Colossus? Game that sold 1.14 on the ps2. The collection only getting .75 on ps3. Who in there right mind would want to copy that? Where did these guys get there logic from?  Kirby games outsell that game.

Their logic came from wanting to believe Sony is superior. It's how they go to sleep at night. They can't stand seeing Sony go from first to last. That's why we are always reminded of what happened in the past and that's why we are always reminding them of the existence of handhelds.

I like how they always jump on Mario's back, and claiming that Nintendo should stop making Mario games so often. Simple fact is that Mario, like a lot of other Ninty first party games, sells systems. This is why games like New Super Mario Bros 2 dominate sales charts around the world and sells 3DSs, while Sony hopes and prays for some 3rd party developer to make a game for their Vita or now the slimmer than slim but no cheaper PS3 to help pull them from thhe brink of oblivion.

Could just be because they thought SotC was one of the most amazing and critically acclaimed unique games they've ever played and think that Nintendo could use another couple games like that.  Or no, it's probably all those things you guys are talking about.  y'know by this logic Nintendo should just go copy Angry Birds since that shits all over NSMB, but that'd be stupid because it wouldn't be the amazing game I assume you guys love to play.  Sales numbers or no there are some games that will be remembered for a really long time as the best that their generation had to offer, and why shouldn't Nintendo get another one of those?  Sure they have tons already, but does one more actually hurt them?  

I know this is a site dedicated to sales, but you guys do know that a game's quality isn't defined by it and you can have an amazing game that doesn't sell millions, right?  Or do you honestly believe everything you say about not bothering to make a game like the one that almost always makes it into top 10's for best games ever?  

I'm sure this all falls on deaf ears, and you'll continue to go on and on about sales while I try and talk about the quality of games. 

Could just be because they thought SotC was one of the most amazing and critically acclaimed unique games they've ever played and think that Nintendo could use another couple games like that.  Or no, it's probably all those things you guys are talking about.  y'know by this logic Nintendo should just go copy Angry Birds since that shits all over NSMB, but that'd be stupid because it wouldn't be the amazing game I assume you guys love to play.  Sales numbers or no there are some games that will be remembered for a really long time as the best that their generation had to offer, and why shouldn't Nintendo get another one of those?  Sure they have tons already, but does one more actually hurt them?  

I know this is a site dedicated to sales, but you guys do know that a game's quality isn't defined by it and you can have an amazing game that doesn't sell millions, right?  Or do you honestly believe everything you say about not bothering to make a game like the one that almost always makes it into top 10's for best games ever?  

I'm sure this all falls on deaf ears, and you'll continue to go on and on about sales while I try and talk about the quality of games. 

So what you trying to say because a game is a franchise multi-instalment hit, that somehow makes it less of a classic than a potential one hit wonder? Listen pal, no matter how many Zelda games, for example, Nintendo makes all of them will be on par and even better than games like SotC. For example, Zelda Wind Waker, why don't you try arguing on this site that this game is any less special or memorable than SotC. Just as much people will love to see another Wind Waker game as much as they will like to see another SotC game.

So while, I agree that sales don't make a good game, try keeping off of Ninty's back, because Nintendo puts infinitely more care and hardwork into each installment of their big first party titles more than any other developer. See the link below about the school or training Ninty put on for making Mario games. That's dedication to perfection regardless of the number of installments in the series.  

http://kotaku.com/5928820/nintendo-ran-a-mario-school-to-teach-people-how-to-make-a-mario-game 

Or maybe, you're arguing than Nintendo has no new IPs, but what you call games like Pikmin, or Nintendogs. Or maybe Nintendo should revive games like Golden Sun or Earthbound?

Nintendo doesn't need to do anything but be Nintendo, no blood, no guts, just great franchise games.

I'm not your pal, friend.

mk, that out of the way.  I'm not arguing any of that crap, jeezus.  I am saying that Nintendo is not perfect, there is no game like SotC made by Nintendo, maybe that's because they don't give a little group like Team Ico total freedom to just screw around and maybe they should give it a shot.  I'm arguing that just because SotC doesn't sell amazing doesn't mean that Nintendo couldn't use a game like it.  

So to recap, I got into this because I'm so tired of people getting defensive the second someone says Nintendo might be able to work on something.  I swear it's like a religion.  The idea that Shigy isn't an infallible god just gets some people in a frenzy and it's terribly annoying to see.  SotC is an amazing game, Nintendo doesn't have a comparable game, maybe they could look into trying to make a team like team ico.  

I'm not your pal, friend.

mk, that out of the way.  I'm not arguing any of that crap, jeezus.  I am saying that Nintendo is not perfect, there is no game like SotC made by Nintendo, maybe that's because they don't give a little group like Team Ico total freedom to just screw around and maybe they should give it a shot.  I'm arguing that just because SotC doesn't sell amazing doesn't mean that Nintendo couldn't use a game like it.  

So to recap, I got into this because I'm so tired of people getting defensive the second someone says Nintendo might be able to work on something.  I swear it's like a religion.  The idea that Shigy isn't an infallible god just gets some people in a frenzy and it's terribly annoying to see.  SotC is an amazing game, Nintendo doesn't have a comparable game, maybe they could look into trying to make a team like team ico.  

Listen Pal, you're obviously no friend of mine cause a fiend of mine wouldn't make such a,..errrr *trying to remember the forum rules*,...anyways, such an inacurate statement like:

"SotC is an amazing game, Nintendo doesn't have a comparable game, maybe they could look into trying to make a team like team ico."

So you telling me that SotC is a more amazing game than Super Metroid, or Mario 64, or how about Zelda OoT?

Pal, I could care infinitely less how much SotC sells, just keep your monkey off Nintendo's back. You want to play games like  SotC then go buy a Sony console, and stop trying to change Nintendo. Nintendo is sucessful because they do what they do well, not like Sony, copying other people's ideas every chance they get.