That would be great, but maybe too good to be true.

If AMD keep to their current convention, then the 8 series will probably just be a revision of the 7xxx GCN architecture, so in some ways, you could say these chips will be in the next console gen. However, the power requirements are still too high, expect 8750-8770 standard hardware if they do go for these chips.

too much fucking heat unless they make godzilla size consoles, it would have to be tuned to have way lower power than that.

Why are people saying 180 watts for the GPU would be too much? The PS3 had a power supply of 380 watts when it launched. There's plenty of overhead for other components.

And people have been trying to argue that Nextbox and PS4 wont be considerably more powerful.

Ive been saying it all along and I hold to it. Next gen systems will be extremly powerfuk

This'll be the gen after this one.  No console has ever releases with cutting edge PC tech.  If Sony and Microsoft wanted a 8870 in their consoles, they would have to start designing them today, not 2 years ago.  Look at cutting edge pc tech from 2 years ago, that'll be about the best you can expect from a console.

I think both Sony and MS are going to push heavily for a more subscription based payment model along with a reduced initial price. This will allow them to spend more money on the actual console hardware, or whatever gimmicks they want to add, yet still keep it affordable.

I think somehow sony will fit this in to their PS+ pricing and MS with their live subscription.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the GPU in the Xbox 360 is based on the (high-end at the time) X1900 XT, which was released in 2005, same year the console released. Same deal with PS3's GPU I think.

I wouldn't be surprised if either Sony or Microsoft choose this family of GPUs but I think it is more likely that they would choose the 8750 or 8770 than the 8850 or 8870; and they certainly will not be using the 8950 or 8970.

See, these are the companies that I love.

They don't go cheap on their jobs re releasing the same stuff and slowing the advance of computing power.