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Train wreck said:
HappySqurriel said:
Train wreck said:
I think this is more of Sony and to a certain extent Microsoft putting a floor on the price of their systems because they dont want to destroy an industry that is already in shambles with more and more price cuts.

I'm sure if you cut through the Sony hate (damn if they do or dont) and console fanboyism you can clearly see that.

Both systems will most likely have new variations coming out in the next 12-18 months so having a set price and not changing it would make the most sense if you dont want to your industry to decline 20% every month.

The new PS3 looks to be production efficient while keeping its price, means they are not sacrificing margins and the same price means they see no real threat from the Wii U in its first year in terms of amount of consoles sold.


I don't see how a price cut on hardware would weaken the industry ...

I do think that Sony and Microsoft may want to keep the price of their current systems relatively high (compared to consoles at a similar point in previous generations) so that their next system seems to be more reasonably priced at launch. With exchange rates being what they are, the likelihood that the PS4 and 'XBox 720' will be bundled with expensive accessories (Kinect 2, PS Move and/or touch screen controller), and releasing with a system that is more powerful and expensive than the Wii U, it may be difficult for Sony and Microsoft to release their next generation systems for less than $400; and they may be closer to $500 at launch.

The strategy has worked for some products in the past, and it is essentially to convince you that the new product isn't expensive because it is worth so much more than the previous model and doesn't cost that much more.

The number of units that the PS3 and 360 would have to generate to equal or surpass any price cut they impliment now is not worth it this late in the generation, so yes it would have a significantly bad effect on the industry.  Just like the 3DS pre and post price cut and the vita, those enities have not been able to move the needle on declining sales (at least here in the US) at all, add a declining PS3 and X360 (which the Wii U would not be able to make up) and you have a receipe for disaster.

The 3DS' price cut transformed a system that was struggling for sales into one of the fastest selling systems in history, and due to the much larger and growing userbase increased software sales across the platform. While the price cut hurt Nintendo's bottom line, the industry as a whole was stronger because of it. The same would be true of the PS3 or XBox 360 ... Now there is an argument that can be made that a price cut will only help the industry on the short term, and Sony being in a better financial position will help the industry in the long term, but I think that a price cut represents a tiny portion of Sony's financial problems. It is likely that Sony's underlying financial problems are the reason that the PS3 hardware was priced the way it is, after all the Playstation division might be forced to turn a profit, but it is unlikely that the decision was made for the "best interests of the industry".



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I think the 12GB version is dumb because of the size of installs and patches. It will probably be full after playing 5 physical copies.



kowenicki said:

Who?

I said they would be crazy to drop the price and now I have actually said a few times here today that this is the correct decision, I agree with no price reduction.  However, what I and others dont understand is the perceived increase in price.

oh and I could easily say,

Whats funny is people saying it would be great if they dropped the price and now they havent they are saying the opposite.  Touche.


You can't say touche to yourself lol



Jay520 said:
kowenicki said:

Who?

I said they would be crazy to drop the price and now I have actually said a few times here today that this is the correct decision, I agree with no price reduction.  However, what I and others dont understand is the perceived increase in price.

oh and I could easily say,

Whats funny is people saying it would be great if they dropped the price and now they havent they are saying the opposite.  Touche.


You can't say touche to yourself lol


You can if you're having a wank and pronounce it wrong with a sleazy voice, your eyes rolling and some 80s easy listening in the background whilst sitting on soft furnishings.



I seriously thought that it was a typo in the OP and it was really 120GB instead of 12GB, damn that's tiny for a PS3 O_O;



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i feel like they should release the 12gb in the US just to cut into xbox sales



SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

there really is no point to this new model if it isnt cheaper. what are sony playing at? will this even give a boost at all?


I don't know about Europe but in the US 90GB of extra HDD space and one of its best games (Uncharted 3) for $20 dollars more then the current cheapest PS3 model seems like a good deal to me. 



Oh..Sony finally deciding to make some profit off all the hardware they sell in exchange for less units being sold in total. Good move for a struggling company i guess.

And i like the focus on the bundles Ive always said MS got it right with bundles this gen while sony continued to focus on cutting price to their detriment. Now they are doing the opposite which is a good thing. Although im also a bit confused about the 16gb model :?

Edit: LOL not even 16gb....XD can a person play Gran Turismo with a 12gb ???



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camaro52391 said:
i feel like they should release the 12gb in the US just to cut into xbox sales

Don't worry. The WiiU will do that for you nicely...

The prices are indeed high (you can buy 320G units all over Europe right now for much less). These prices are MSRP though, that include store margins. Once the old 320G units are sold out, some agreessive retailers will no doubt start to lower prices by 10-15%.



Chris Hu said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

there really is no point to this new model if it isnt cheaper. what are sony playing at? will this even give a boost at all?


I don't know about Europe but in the US 90GB of extra HDD space and one of its best games (Uncharted 3) for $20 dollars more then the current cheapest PS3 model seems like a good deal to me. 


just the announcement of a new model gets people excited, just look at the iphone 5