@TWRoO

You're better than I am. To me, arguing with this guy is like wearing sandpaper underpants.

Sorry but if you are willing to use that as a basis of equal timescale then I can't help you, you are clinically crazzy =)

You seem unwilling to look at the huge difference in timescale when broken down regionally, yet perfectly able to dismiss Japan in order to (attempt to) prove the PS3 is equalling the PS2. You have classed 2000 as the 1st year of PS2, which it is, but in terms of sales it had no chance to sell well in 2000 as it was only in Japan for 7 of those 10 months.

I say good luck to you, I think the PS3 is having a great year without having to attempt to inflate it's status compared to PS2, which it is obviously not going to perform anything like however well you sugar coat it and downplay the PS2s success.

Well, I know how futile it is trying to convince you of your fallacy, but nonetheless I'll give it a shot.

The PS2 was released in Japan in March of 2000, correct? Okay, we can agree upon that. What everyone has issues with is you claiming this counts when there are no sales for America or Europe. This goes against any sort of trends that usually happen in a console's lifetime.

The PS2 was likewise released in November of 2000 for America and Europe. Once again, the PS2 had only been selling in one region as opposed to, when it launched, the PS3 had been selling in two. These two regions are bound to trend faster than one region. Meaning, while the PS3 was finishing its first "year," 2007, the PS2 was at a main disadvantage in its first "year."

For seven of the ten months before the other regions launched, the PS2 was selling on only one region. For a mere three months, the PS3 was selling at two. But this thread isn't about the consoles' first respective years. It's about their second.

In PS2's second "year", Japan was trending just fine. However, America and Europe were still in their infancies, they still had yet to get a year beneath their belts. Thus, they would statistically sell slower than their future selves with the PS3.

In PS3's second "year", all of the regions save for Europe trend just fine. Europe was released nine months prior, yet despite this, it still has had more time on the market than the PS2 in its equivalent spot in 2001.

You can try to compare the years for the sake of it and you won't get any complaints from me. But when you try to extrapolate how the PS3 is going to trend in the future by paralleling it to the PS2, you'll have loads of people, myself included, trying to convince you of your fallacy. Like I said, if you try to compare the numbers for fun, that's fine. Just don't try to make any meanings out of it; you'll get your ass creamed.

P.S. I think the reason for his apparent lack of reading comprehension is that English is not a very good language for him to understand. Tying vocabulary together to determine meaning can be pretty hard when you just barely know the language. =]

Here's another take on it:

While 2007 was an incomplete first year for the PS3 (sans Europe for three months), 2000 was a lot more incomplete. 2000 didn't see ANY region have a full year on sale. 2007 did. What this means is that 2008 will trend more favorably for the PS3 because it has been on sale considerably longer than the PS2.

But by all means stay in your delusion. It'll do you and every one around you no good.

He isn't interested in a debate, merely showing a limited set of facts to show his limited view of the world. Small minds live in small worlds.

Anybody know how old Crazzy is? It might have an impact on his outlook. o_0

@TWRoO,

*THE MAIN POINT of THIS THREAD - is to SEE how far/close will PS3 be in 2008 compared to PS2 with it`s 16 mln. consoles sold in 2001.

@Vertigo-X,
just one Thing:
PS2 launch PRICE - 300$/euro,
PS3 launch PRICE - 600$/euro.

@Crazzy: I know what I asked you, but your answer makes no sense. Worldwide it is already 2 million behind and the gap is growing fast. Even if you argue that Americas plus Others is about equal after 10 months, which means it will also sell equal in the last 2 months (a completely wrong assumption looking at the sales from recent weeks and knowing how many units PS2 sold in holiday 2001), the gap would still increase because of Japan.

@koffieboon,
oh yeah, because of FEW autumn weeks, you assume WHOLE Christmas week sales???
THAT makes even MORE sense. Lol, NO.

Time will show,
for now, i speak about PS3 selling trend of US+EU in 2008, which is EQUAL to PS2 selling trend of US+EU in 2001.

Now, YOU are saying, that this 10 months trend won`t continue BECAUSE of few weeks of Autumn???

And, by the way, Japan had no pricecut, they got only new 40GB model for 39,900 yen,
this year they too get NEW 80GB model bundled with GT5P Spec III at 39,900 + other bundles and new games.

p.s. *THE MAIN POINT of THIS THREAD - is to SEE how far/close will PS3 be in 2008 compared to PS2 with it`s 16 mln. consoles sold in 2001.

just in case IF somebody forgot.

@Crazzy: Not 1 week, the last 2 months. Besides, halfway through the year PS2 and PS3 were still almost even, so in only 15 weeks it got outsold by more than 1.5M consoles. That isn't a 1 week thing, that is a trend.

And about the price cut in Japan, read this:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6180614.html