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9th week UPDATE:

PS2 March 04th - PS3 March 02nd
USA - 104k <> USA - 90k
Japan - 42k <> Japan - 14k
Others - 67k <> Others - 75k
Total - 213k <> Total - 179k
MGS4 bundle announcement. Lost, Lost Planet releases in Usa and Europe.
PS2 vs PS3 = +130k



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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Sorry Crazzy, I don't get the math.

In week 8 you have PS2 vs PS3 +105k
The difference this week = 34k
Total difference week 9 = 130k

It should be 139k or (140 k if you use nice numbers).

But, interesting thread nonetheless. (Much better than the Marioboyz one).



@BengaBenga, i weekly update numbers on FIRST page. =)
So you should just look there, and then everything will be clear to you. =)

@mike_intellivision, well, if PS3 will be able to reach number close to 25 mln. this year, i don`t see the problem of reaching over 100 mln. =) Since PS3 is better then PS2 in ALL ways. =)

PS2:
2000 - 6 mln.
2001 - 22 mln.
2002 - 43 mln.
2003 - 61 mln.
2004 - 77 mln.
2005 - 94 mln.
2006 - 106 mln.

PS3:
2007 - 9 mln.
2008 - 25 mln.
2009 - 46 mln.
2010 - 68 mln.
2011 - 86 mln.
2012 - 101 mln



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

CrazzyMan said:
@BengaBenga, i weekly update numbers on FIRST page. =)
So you should just look there, and then everything will be clear to you. =)

@mike_intellivision, well, if PS3 will be able to reach number close to 25 mln. this year, i don`t see the problem of reaching over 100 mln. =) Since PS3 is better then PS2 in ALL ways. =)

PS2:
2000 - 6 mln.
2001 - 22 mln.
2002 - 43 mln.
2003 - 61 mln.
2004 - 77 mln.
2005 - 94 mln.
2006 - 106 mln.

PS3:
2007 - 9 mln.
2008 - 25 mln.
2009 - 46 mln.
2010 - 68 mln.
2011 - 86 mln.
2012 - 101 mln

I admire your strong will, but I'm sure you know this is total nonsense.

PS2 2000= 9 months Japan + 2 months US + 1 month Others

PS3 2007= 14 months Japan + 14 months US + 8 months others



PS2 2000= 10 months Japan + 2 months US + 1 month Others - with NO big supply problems on the launch and at 299$ price.

PS3 2007= 13 months Japan + 13 months US + 9 months others - with supply problems on the launch and at 599$ price.

So what the problem here? PS3 was selling more time in usa and others, BUT it costed 2 times more. SO it`s pretty FAIR to compare. Having in mind, that console life is starting WHEN it`s first time available on the market, NOT when launched in ALL regions.

If you want to compare by regions, then you will get, that ps3 is succesful in Europe and not so in Japan and USA. What conclusion/predictions about total sales you can make then? None.

The trend is different in every region.
The trend is same in TOTAL sales.
TOTAL sales - is what matter.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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Crazzyman, you are awesome. Keep fighting those no good Marioboys (is that correct?).



CrazzyMan said:
PS2 2000= 10 months Japan + 2 months US + 1 month Others - with NO big supply problems on the launch and at 299$ price.

PS3 2007= 13 months Japan + 13 months US + 9 months others - with supply problems on the launch and at 599$ price.

So what the problem here? PS3 was selling more time in usa and others, BUT it costed 2 times more. SO it`s pretty FAIR to compare. Having in mind, that console life is starting WHEN it`s first time available on the market, NOT when launched in ALL regions.

If you want to compare by regions, then you will get, that ps3 is succesful in Europe and not so in Japan and USA. What conclusion/predictions about total sales you can make then? None.

The trend is different in every region.
The trend is same in TOTAL sales.
TOTAL sales - is what matter.

Sure, if you want to compare total sales from launch you're absolutely right. I already said before that tracking 2001 vs 2008 is interesting. Plus I didn't make any conclusions nor predictions.

But having 11 months in US sales, 3 months of Japanese and 8 months of other sales more than PS2 kinda inflates the PS3 totals don't you think (with a couple of million or so).



But having 11 months in US sales, 3 months of Japanese and 8 months of other sales more than PS2 kinda inflates the PS3 totals don't you think (with a couple of million or so).

@BengaBenga, you see, the problem is in supply.
Just look:
http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Total+Other&cons2=PS3&reg2=Total+Other&cons3=PS3&reg3=------&weeks=18
Say what you see, do those 4 months of selling has ANY effect on TOTAL YEAR sales?
And that is 4 month. TOTAL sales since launch is all what matters, NOT months count.

All who wanted ps2 in 2000, bought ps2 in 2000, all who wanted ps3 in 2007, bought ps3 in 2007. There is no supply issues in 2001 and 2008.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

I don't think you understand. The four months you're talking about mean very little in total WW sales for the year, but the extra 8 months after Europe's launch certainly do.

Here's a look at PS2's 2000:
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS2&reg2=America&cons3=PS2&reg3=Total+Other&start=36583&end=36891&weekly=1
Japan - 44 weeks, 3,549,355
America - 10 weeks, 1,322,589
Other - 6 weeks, 759,973

And here's PS3's 2007(with 2006 included):
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS3&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS3&reg2=America&cons3=PS3&reg3=Total+Other&start=39026&end=39446&weekly=1
Japan - 60 weeks, 1,691,217
America - 59 weeks, 3,524,398
Other - 59 weeks(41 counting after Europe launch), 3,649,393

At the PS2's point in time, PS3 was:
Japan - 44 weeks, 1,177,725
America - 10 weeks, 919,885
Other - 6 weeks counting after Europe launch, 907,415

So with the extra time PS3 gained:
Japan - 16 weeks, 513,492
America - 49 weeks, 2,604,513
Other - 53 weeks(35 counting after the Europe launch), 2,741,978

For a total of 5,859,983. That's 228,066 more units than PS2 sold in 2000 alone. You may not like breaking the analysis down to regions, but clearly all the extra time included as PS3's first year makes the comparison flawed.



@Linkzmaxm, well ONE of the point of this thread is to see, will PS3 able to sell on it`s 2nd year of life ~16 mln. just like PS2 did on it`s second year.

But we are counting YEARLY sales, not sales per region.
In every report from companies like Sony, M$, Nintendo, THEY count YEARLY sales, NOT 12 month in particular region.

And YES, extra time of sales in regions during first year of PS3 life helped to gain in TOTAL sales. So what? it`s PS2 problem, that it didn`t have WW launch, as long as PS3 problem, that Euro launch was 4 month LATER.
However, people compare TOTAL x360/wii sales with TOTAL ps3 sales, though PS3 wasn`t selling in Europe for 4 month.
So what is your POINT?



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far