By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sales Discussion - PS2 2001 sales numbers vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =)

Hi CrazzyMan, how are things in Lithuania? =)



Around the Network

so you expect ps3 to sell 17 mln on average each year? OK lol



Proud poster of the 10000th reply at the Official Smash Bros Update Thread.

tag - "I wouldn't trust gamespot, even if it was a live comparison."

Bets with Conegamer:

Pandora's Tower will have an opening week of less than 37k in Japan. (Won!)
Pandora's Tower will sell less than 100k lifetime in Japan.
Stakes: 1 week of avatar control for each one.

Fullfilled Prophecies

i'm thinking a 2013 PS4 launch. :P

2006-2007 ~ 9 mln.
2008- 23 mln.
2009- 40 mln.
2010- 56 mln.
2011- 70 mln.
2012- 81 mln.
2013- 89 mln.

2014-2015-2016 ~ 100 mln.



sorry but ps3 didnt sell 9 million in 2007



Proud poster of the 10000th reply at the Official Smash Bros Update Thread.

tag - "I wouldn't trust gamespot, even if it was a live comparison."

Bets with Conegamer:

Pandora's Tower will have an opening week of less than 37k in Japan. (Won!)
Pandora's Tower will sell less than 100k lifetime in Japan.
Stakes: 1 week of avatar control for each one.

Fullfilled Prophecies

LOL at Nutboy, but thanks for warning us with your screenname of the kind of posts you are going to do. After Crazzyman and Nutboy I am now waiting for InsaneGrandpa and LoonyMaleInfant.

Given that the Wii has already sold as much as the GC worldwide, even if it did have a similar dropoff this year as the gamecube had the second year percentagewise it still would sell much better than the GC.

And Crazzyman, you forgot 2006 for the PS3 in your table:

PS2:
2000 - 6 mln.
2001 - 22 mln.
2002 - 43 mln.
2003 - 61 mln.
2004 - 77 mln.
2005 - 94 mln.
2006 - 106 mln.

PS3:
2006 - 1.4 mln.
2007 - 9 mln.
2008 - 25 mln.
2009 - 46 mln.
2010 - 68 mln.
2011 - 86 mln.
2012 - 101 mln.

I believe it is overly optimistic as the competition is much stronger as most former Ps2 exclusive franchises are now crossplatform with the 360 and the Wii is sure to leach quite a few casuals PS3 gamers but PS3 should still get respectable numbers (except maybe in Japan if the current downward trend doesn't stop).

At least they are more believable than the numbers of the guy (with 1 post mind you) that think that the PS3 will sell 12-14 millions a year until the end of its life where it will suddenly jump to 18 millions a year.

This thread should be interesting in the next few weeks according to this graph:
http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=PS2&reg3=All&weeks=120&weekly=1

As the PS2 is getting a boost soon whereas I am not sure if there is any game big enough coming on the PS3 to counter it.

One more thing, due to the PS2's earlier launch in Japan its Christmas sales are hitting sooner so it will destroy the PS3 then until the PS3's Christmas sales hit themselves where it will be interesting to see if it can catch up with it (notice the similarity between Wii's last Christmas and PS2's 2001 christmas, they are the Everest to the PS3's Mont Blanc).

Oh and guys, don't bother getting out the quote from Crazzyman's OP about not caring... because it isn't in the forum rules and you don't get to make your own. If you guys want us to care about these arbitrary, circle-jerk rules petition Ioi to add them to the forum rules.



"I do not suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it"

 

Around the Network

PS3:

2006: 1.4
2007: 9
2008: 21
2009: 35
2010: 48
2011: 59
2012: 68
2012: 76 (PS4 relesed 31/12)
2013: 81

I expect something like that



@Slimebeast, Hi, strong wind here. =)

@trestres, why would one not to buy ps3 at 299$? Any reasons?

@___O_o______, well yeah, my estimates a little bit optimistic, but just PS3 is better then PS2 in ALL ways. =)

@trestres, Total sales - 9 mln.

@Sri Lumpa, 1,4 mln. is NOTHING when we speak about 100 mln. so i just started since 2007. =)
Well, GT5P is coming in April for usa and europe, well prologue is not that big but still may attract buyers.
GTA4 though a multiplatform, still will draw some people in April.
Then MGS4(+mgso) is still rumored to April, so that one should be a good system seller.
In japan there will be some japanese games released in next 3 weeks.
Haze also should come in near future.
2008 for PS3 is better then 2001 was for PS2, and ps3 has chance for pricecut, while ps2 was whole year selling for one price.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

"1,4 mln. is NOTHING when we speak about 100 mln"

Isn't that your problem though? You assume that the PS3 will reach that 100M no matter what and then looks for supporting evidence and ignore non-supporting evidence. You should do the opposite and start from the available evidence and then try to predict from there.

And so far, the evidence point to the PS3 doing very well but not nearly as well as the PS2 and not nearly well enough for 100M to be a sure thing. It barely keeps up with the PS2 at this stage in its life but had to neuter its hardware to do so and drop its price heavily. Also the PS2 was still supply constrained at this time in 2001 at least in the US (shortages for about 6 months after launch wasn't it) whereas the PS3 isn't.



"I do not suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it"

 

Okay, at the current time in 2001, it was not obvious that Ps2 would smack the other two as hard as it did. But, as we have seen with the Wii, when a console is the most bought console, it becomes most popular, and then people buy it due to that. This will not happen to Ps3, as it has close to 1/3 of the market share Ps2 had at the time. Therefore it will not get the super boost it would have if Wii and 360 had sold 5M combined.

If you do it this way, ALL consoles will sell 100M +, and Wii will sell 170M +. Even with expanded audience, there is no way this is going to happen.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

8th week UPDATE: 

PS2 February 25th - PS3 February 24th
USA - 86k <> USA - 94k
Japan - 43k <> Japan - 14k
Others - 60k <> Others - 70k
Total - 188k <> Total - 177k
No big releases. Club, DW6 in Usa. LP, B5 in Japan. UT3 in Europe. PS3 losing momentum in Japan.
PS2 vs PS3 = +105k



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far