User experience and stability... the problem with Android is the bold part, I can see why the some guys like it just like some guys like Linux.

I don't need anything I need to full cutomize to work... I what just a stable and user fiendly experiece that works without I need to google to revolve issues.

The Apple make this happen everytime... best OS in the market for mobile phones.

That's a big issue with the phone today... I think in the future I will need to fit the iPad my jeans pocket lol.... 3" is the idea size for me.

The weight is a problem too... 100g is fine but 180g is just too crazy.

slowmo said: UncleScrooge said: People still don't get the concept of overshooting a market even though we've had half a decade of PS3/360 struggling against the Wii? The iPhone 5's screen is not inferior - Apple consciously designed it at 4" because more than 4" is too big for a lot of people (like 90% of females). And stuff like refresh ratio and such... yeah, that's just tech talk. In the end both screens will look very similar. Same goes for the camera which is a bit better on the Lumia. What people don't seem to take into consideration is the materials these phones are built from. The iPhone 5 is made out of a single piece of aluminum, glass and steel. Most Android Smartphones are made of plastic. This definitely helps to make the phone feel more quality. As for iOS vs Android... yeah that comes down to your preferences. In the end it's the same as always: Stay calm and just enjoy your smartphone! The difference in quality between the Galaxy S3, the iPhone 5 and the Lumia 920 is so small you're gonna need a magnifying glass to tell which one is "better". It's just utter bullshit bitching about every single smartphone released because it is not revolutionary enough. Comparing specs on a smartphone is equally stupid. It's about the user experience! Not the specs. Oh the day when I can just bring my iPhone to any Restaurant or whatever without people telling me that Apple sucks will be a glorious day. It surely will signal that heaven on earth is near. I miss the 90's when Apple was that small struggling company and I could just use their products and no one cared. Today whenever Apple releases... anything people will feel personally threatened by it. The good old days HTC devices were all built with aluminium chassis a couple of years ago but I didn't see Apple fans claiming it was a better build quality when their phones were being made out of plastic... I think the biggest annoyance and why Apple fans get blasted is they enter a disussion without knowing about the other options generally as they often don't look into them properly.  This makes them poorly informed and often spout marketing and opinion as some sort of valid reasoning for their devices to be better.  I have no problem with Apple making the business choices it does, I just get irritated by Apple's users who have to be some of the most obnoxious gaseous people in existence (present company not included).  Just cause a large number of people do something doesn't make it right.

It was not about the aluminum itself (rather that it's unibody) but yeah whatever...

Second part: I see where you are coming from, really. When I read Apple fan forums it sometimes feels like these people are living in a sort of alternate reality or something. I'm really annoyed about both extremes: People bitching about everything that isn't an Apple product and people claiming if you own an Apple device you must be stupid. I guess calling other people stupid (both sides do this frequently) for purchasing something you didn't helps your ego somehow. Maybe I should give it a try? 

I've held those 4.5+ inches screen cell phones (including the SIII), and they felt bulky in my hands. And I couldn't sit while they where in my pockets, as I suspected.  Sure, they have nice numbers behind them techs, but numbers mean nothing if the user experience isn't smooth and up to par.  Android is really nice, that's what I'm using right now, but it doesn't run as smoothly as iOS per my own observation.  And there's just something extremely sleek about Apple products that's just appealing to me.

Specs are certainly better, but can Windows phone software library compete with iPhone's library?

Off topic: Hate the name 'Lumia', don't know why.

iPhone 5 will be a great phone, but for it's price, it just can't compete with the other leader phones like the lumia 920 or the galaxy note 2. Specs on these phones, don't bother me, as we know all 3 are capable, fast sleek devices.
But Nokia wins just because of the extra features they built into it's phone. Windows Phone just got a load more features while, iOS just got slimmer. iPhone may have 4 inch screen now (we have 5 inch screens in phones now, keep up apple!), but it's still the same phone to me, as older iPhone's. The camera and screen tech are just incredible in the lumia 920 (being able to use your phone with gloves on, is pure win!). I would still pick the Nokia lumia 920, even though iPhone 5 is here, it just seems alot better phone for everything. It won't stop the apple fanboys though, let em have it!

That's the point. Nobody wants a phone with 4" or 5" screen... I want to buy a Phone, not a Pad.

3" is perfect... 3.5" is fine but already big.

I like the 4S screen size... the iPhone have the size of the screen with thin borders... the others phones is bigger than screen size with thick borders.

I need to try to see how the i5 sits in my hand/pocket.

Maybe I accept a 4" phone but it look way too big... 5" is impossible for me.

I found that site: http://phone-size.com/ the 4s and Lumia 800 are fine for me but I already used a Galaxy Nexus and it's terrible (4.7").

@ pezus I don't like this future lol lol lol

You should try my brother's 2 iPhones his family uses (a 3GS and a 4S).