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Jay520 on 05 September 2012
JustThatGamer said:
Nothing special at all imo, I don't understand how people can be excited for this game,

1.) It's just another post-apocalyptic game with nothing but dilapidated buildings & cars for environments,
2.) No meritable artistic style,
3.) It'll lack good gamesplay just like Uncharted and
4.) it's just dull, no imagination went into making this game.

5.) Just like the Uncharted series, this game will be forgotten about in a few years when next gen consoles come along
6.) because games that focus purely on visuals always become outdated A LOT quicker as newer games with much better visuals will come out and become the new centre of attention for graphic whores, it's games with great gameplay that will be remembered and celebrated for many years to come as they won't become outdated nearly as quick.
7.) Naughty Dog hasn't made any games with great gameplay since Jak & Daxter,
8.) hopefully they'll create something creative, magical, non-shooter, imaginative, fun and ORIGINAL next generation, I doubt it though.

How did I not notice this? Here's my take on this post.

1.) Did you not see the lush wildlife and vegetation?
2.) Subjective, I guess. I thought it looked good. It showed abandonment and the look of natural wildlife taking over. And unlike the typical post-apocalyptic games, it showed a wide spectrum of colors. Not just brown and gray. 
3.) Subjective, I guess. Not sure how you know that now though. Are you from the future?
4.) Some pretty undefined claims there. Not sure how you can gauge or even know how much 'imagination' went into a game. Especially not sure how you can measure the imagination that went into a game by seeing just one level. Perhaps, you're more skilled at detecting imagination that I am, so I'll just have to take your word for it until the game releases.

5.) I doubt that'll happen to Uncharted. We'll see though. As of now, the series appears in the Top 5 on almost every website's list of Top PS3 Game list and is thought of by many as the PS3's best exclusive series. It doesn't appear to be a game that's going to be forgotten. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
6.) Most people say Uncharted does have great gameplay. If the game focused purely on visuals, it wouldn't be nearly as successful/praised as it is. There are games out there with amazing graphics, yet haven't touched the success/praise of Uncharted. This obviously suggests that there's something about Uncharted, apart from graphics, that gives it value. Perhaps, it's gameplay. I guess you can have your opinion though.
7.) Most people feel differently, but that's your opinion I guess.
8.) I hope so too. I don't really care about it being magical or being a non-shooter. I just want an enjoyable game.



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errorpwns on 05 September 2012
M.U.G.E.N said:
why you people bother with these guys...I have no idea :S

You know what this site needs? An 'ignore' button..no joke. Admins/Mods if you see this pass this idea along pls

anywho ot: I meant 'LAST' E3 as in 2011 one. I didn't watch the 2012 one :D not gonna either. Total media block out. But it's good to hear that this will shut up people about the bu bu scripted stuff

but alas I'm sure they will find something new...


Yeah so we can ignore fanboys such as yourself who have no interest in bringing an unbias realistic discussion to the forums. 

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Player1x3 on 05 September 2012
errorpwns said:
The textures are blurry, the crouching animation is awful, the acting is horrendous. The water is miserable to look at. If you actually think this game looks good then you need to get checked if you're blind or not. I can find better looking/on par console games. Heck I think even uncharted looks better than this.


why so desperate dude?



M.U.G.E.N on 05 September 2012
errorpwns said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
why you people bother with these guys...I have no idea :S

You know what this site needs? An 'ignore' button..no joke. Admins/Mods if you see this pass this idea along pls

anywho ot: I meant 'LAST' E3 as in 2011 one. I didn't watch the 2012 one :D not gonna either. Total media block out. But it's good to hear that this will shut up people about the bu bu scripted stuff

but alas I'm sure they will find something new...


Yeah so we can ignore fanboys such as yourself who have no interest in bringing an unbias realistic discussion to the forums. 

that's cute...so you are a bringer of 'realistic' and 'unbiased' (lol) discussion? 

 

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errorpwns on 05 September 2012
Jay520 said:
JustThatGamer said:
Nothing special at all imo, I don't understand how people can be excited for this game,

1.) It's just another post-apocalyptic game with nothing but dilapidated buildings & cars for environments,
2.) No meritable artistic style,
3.) It'll lack good gamesplay just like Uncharted and
4.) it's just dull, no imagination went into making this game.

5.) Just like the Uncharted series, this game will be forgotten about in a few years when next gen consoles come along
6.) because games that focus purely on visuals always become outdated A LOT quicker as newer games with much better visuals will come out and become the new centre of attention for graphic whores, it's games with great gameplay that will be remembered and celebrated for many years to come as they won't become outdated nearly as quick.
7.) Naughty Dog hasn't made any games with great gameplay since Jak & Daxter,
8.) hopefully they'll create something creative, magical, non-shooter, imaginative, fun and ORIGINAL next generation, I doubt it though.

How did I not notice this? Here's my take on this post.

1.) Did you not see the lush wildlife and vegetation?
2.) Subjective, I guess. I thought it looked good. It showed abandonment and the look of natural wildlife taking over. And unlike the typical post-apocalyptic games, it showed a wide spectrum of colors. Not just brown and gray. 
3.) Subjective, I guess. Not sure how you know that now though. Are you from the future?
4.) Some pretty undefined claims there. Not sure how you can gauge or even know how much 'imagination' went into a game. Especially not sure how you can measure the imagination that went into a game by seeing just one level. Perhaps, you're more skilled at detecting imagination that I am, so I'll just have to take your word for it until the game releases.

5.) I doubt that'll happen to Uncharted. We'll see though. As of now, the series appears in the Top 5 on almost every website's list of Top PS3 Game list and is thought of by many as the PS3's best exclusive series. It doesn't appear to be a game that's going to be forgotten. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
6.) Most people say Uncharted does have great gameplay. If the game focused purely on visuals, it wouldn't be nearly as successful/praised as it is. There are games out there with amazing graphics, yet haven't touched the success/praise of Uncharted. This obviously suggests that there's something about Uncharted, apart from graphics, that gives it value. Perhaps, it's gameplay. I guess you can have your opinion though.
7.) Most people feel differently, but that's your opinion I guess.
8.) I hope so too. I don't really care about it being magical or being a non-shooter. I just want an enjoyable game.


1. There are plenty of games with lush wildlife and vegetation.  And some with far better vegetation than this one

2. The art style may be decent, but it's still not meritable.  There's nothing special about it is what he was trying to say and that is true.  More games than ever are going with a stylisitc approach to hide console shortcomings.  Which is ok, since in the end it looks better.

3. It's sort of obvious from the gameplay.  You walk around and move a table or whatever in the whole of 5 minutes.  It would normally take less, but they had to implement rather boring dialogue. (My opinion I suppose)

4. It really is a dull theme.  Look at the number of post apocalyptic games out there.  I'm fairly certain there is already a movie based around a similar story too.  It really don't bring anything new into the genre.  Basically Uncharted: The Apocalypse.  No undefined claims here.

5. Of course it won't be forgotten. How would Sony not milk a series that fanboys love?  Of course come the 10th uncharted they'll still attack Nintendo fans for their games being rehashes and Nintendo milking their franchises. Uncharted in Next gen graphics?  I see Uncharted as a PS4 launch title.  Maybe it'll be the last of us 2.  I'm not sure if Naughty Dog was done with uncharted or not.

6. Uncharted has no different gameplay than any other action orientated game.  The only difference is, it tends to lean on the linear side more so than others.  Which is fine for those who like the franchise.   The gameplay isn't my issue.

7. I agree, all up to someones opinion.

8. I hope they change it up though.  Uncharted and the Last of Us are still too similar. Naughty Dog should wander from the path for a game.  I'm sure their fans wouldn't mind as long as the game is good.

 

I don't exactly have a problem with the game.  I just hate how "fans" tout it around like it has the best console graphics or something.  When clearly it doesn't.  It's on part with other high end console games.  Just with a tad bit more color.  Which is fine. Just if those other games had some more color they'd look exactly the same. 



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pokoko on 05 September 2012
errorpwns said:
Deoz said:
errorpwns said:
The textures are blurry, the crouching animation is awful, the acting is horrendous. The water is miserable to look at. If you actually think this game looks good then you need to get checked if you're blind or not. I can find better looking/on par console games. Heck I think even uncharted looks better than this.

It's a console game


That's the point.  All the high end console games for the most part look the same.  Honestly other than some areas I believe Rage looks better and more unique then this.  The only thing Rage suffers in is proper gameplay.  Which could of been easily given on the IdTech5 engine.  Rage also runs at a much better framerate and still manages to look stunning.  Of course you'll never hear that from a Naughty Dog fanboy.  They never compliment any other game.  Since they're in some kind of fantasy world.  There is nothing in this game that sets it apart from any others except maybe a little color.  Which Crysis 2 and Rage had plenty of. I will admit the fire effects aren't terrible though, the animations of the player models also look pretty good for the most part.  I just think the characters are on a tad boring side.  The game isn't one that interest me.

If this game doesn't interest you then why are you posting?

Look, it's pretty obvious that you just don't want to like this game, and I have no idea why you're comparing it to two mostly generic corridor-type FPS titles--both of which I liked, actually.  Well, except for the horrible texture pop in Rage.  The comparisons are so meaningless that it's borderline trolling.



errorpwns on 05 September 2012
M.U.G.E.N said:
errorpwns said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
why you people bother with these guys...I have no idea :S

You know what this site needs? An 'ignore' button..no joke. Admins/Mods if you see this pass this idea along pls

anywho ot: I meant 'LAST' E3 as in 2011 one. I didn't watch the 2012 one :D not gonna either. Total media block out. But it's good to hear that this will shut up people about the bu bu scripted stuff

but alas I'm sure they will find something new...


Yeah so we can ignore fanboys such as yourself who have no interest in bringing an unbias realistic discussion to the forums. 

that's cute...so you are a bringer of 'realistic' and 'unbiased' (lol) discussion? 

 

WE ARE SAVED!

I am, I'm speaking the clear truth. Obviously you have your Naughty Dog goggles on still.  The game doesn't visually look any better than other console games of its budget.  I'm not going to get into the gameplay, as simply put that is a matter of opinion.  Where is raw technical visuals aren't.  Art style is, texture quality, etc isn't.



sub-zero-TM on 05 September 2012
errorpwns said:
pokoko said:
errorpwns said:
At the guy who posted the gifs, look at the one above the last.  Don't tell me the textures aren't blurry as heck.  The paper on the floor nearly looks like it's part of the floor. I'm just giving an honest look at it here. And honestly having played other games I can say the water isn't all that great.

Wait.  You're not judging off of gifs, are you?


I saw video too.  The textures are blurry.  Simply put.  With 256mb of video ram you can't really expect more.  I honestly think GTA:V looks better than this.


lol dumbass troll....

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errorpwns on 05 September 2012
sub-zero-TM said:
errorpwns said:
pokoko said:
errorpwns said:
At the guy who posted the gifs, look at the one above the last.  Don't tell me the textures aren't blurry as heck.  The paper on the floor nearly looks like it's part of the floor. I'm just giving an honest look at it here. And honestly having played other games I can say the water isn't all that great.

Wait.  You're not judging off of gifs, are you?


I saw video too.  The textures are blurry.  Simply put.  With 256mb of video ram you can't really expect more.  I honestly think GTA:V looks better than this.


lol dumbass troll....


The PS3 does have 256Mb for video and 256Mb for system.  And the textures are blurry.  I fail to see how I'm trolling?  I've only spoken with honesty so far.  And I do think GTA:V looks better.  Guess I'm not entitled to my opinion on the fact GTA:V looks better?  Ok then.



Smeags on 05 September 2012

That's now two accounts I've had to moderate because of name calling. Terms such as Troll or Fanboy are not tolerated on this site. If you cannot discuss or debate without resorting to personal insults, then don't post at all.

Carry on... or something.



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