And there you go!  Pointless to talk to you guys.  Your minds are well made up before hand.  Im so done with this thread.  Great spokesmanship for the community

Let's take this from a different angle because we're getting nowhere right now. 

What is the lesson you wanted the mods to take from the pezus incident? What is it that you wanted corrected?

- Do you feel that posting informal warnings when moderation is being discussed in an unrelated thread is not the way to go?
- Do you disagree with moderating someone who wilfully disobeyed a mod warning?

Do you know what a democracy is? There is no voting here. You dont group together to decide who does and doesnt get banned. You dont group together to argue against a ban, expecting it to be overturned *just because* a group of people disagree with it.

You hold no power this way. No specific number of people hold power. What you DO have is the power to form an actual argument for your case.

Tell us HOW we are wrong on a moderation. Tell us HOW you think we can improve the rule set. Tell us WHY you think pezus shouldnt have been banned. Dont just stroll in here expecting to hold any kind of power or sway because a handfull of people agree with something you say.

You need to actually start forming proper arguments rather than expecting things to be done because "people" disagree with certain actions. My God.

Edit - Here you go, the post I was just looking for - http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6002146 - It isnt a democracy. You accept it or you put forward a proper, well thought out argument for why you want something overturned or changed. Debate it. Dont expect something to be done just because a group of people disagree.

What? Seece is still around.

People already made an argument, specially with pezus in this very thread. My God.  

ANd numbers has always been one of the greatest arguments in the world.  

To be fair, it's a democracy inasmuch as any voluntary congregation is a democracy: if leadership (like at a church or a club or a website like this one) starts acting inappropriately, folks will vote by diminishing their participation or leaving outright. That is the implicit check against abuses of power on our end.

The degree to which it's correct for jaywood to invoke that in this context, now, is a bit more questionable. Aside from the Vizioneck migration (where the losses were less than originally estimated) we haven't had more than the same outflow of users that's been going on for the past 4 years or so, with the same study influx of newbies, some who stay on.

Oh, certainly. Im not arguing against that. Every user has the right to leave at any time if they feel that the "leadership" is acting inappropriately to send a message (Though the Vizioneck case wasnt solely down to problems with the "leadership" here). The point Im making is that when arguing a case against a moderation, there isnt a vote. There isnt action because a number of people think it was wrong. Its never been that way. There has to be a suitable argument that isnt "X number of people think it was a bad moderation".

Tell us your argument.

Tell us why you think pezus shouldnt have been moderated for directly ignoring the warning in the post he quoted, telling him to move moderation talk away from that thread and into the designated areas (This thread, pm, etc.).

We have been very patient in this matter but now it's time to state it plainly, what made pezus' ban unjustified? How should similar situations be handled?

Woooweee. This thread is on fire again.

Just wanted to say this to motivate the mods a bit after the last few pages!

Keep going mods you guys are doing good work, even though it is not always perceived that way.
Sometimes mistakes are made (it's possible), but from what I've seen it either gets rectified or you guys learn from it. It can even be argued over PM's which is awesome.
It can't be easy trying to do as much as you can in your free time for this website, because damn you guys are actually giving up free time to make sure this community does not get filled with crap. I appreciate it and I am pretty sure a lot of other people do as well!

Also I want more gifs in my sig haha

I can honestly say i get sick of your condescending attitude.

Its simple, he asked a fucking question.  If you guys dont want people to ask questions publicly then dont post it in a thread for people to see publicly, take it to PM. 

In fact it isnt even a rule he cant do that.  So ill post the rules below and you can go ahead and point out the rule that was broken.  Go ahead, ive been waiting patiently here,  but its time for you to state it plainly what rule he actually broke

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Did you actually read the rules before you posted them? Look at Rule 16.

"Reporting Content. If you think a thread or post needs moderator attention then you can let us know by clicking "report this post" and telling us what the problem is. If things need to go further, send a PM to any of our fine moderators. Naturally, we as moderators do not read every post in every thread, and appreciate a helpful head's up from readers when something untoward is going on. If you have a problem with a moderator, send that moderator a private message, and if you are still dissatisfied, send a private message to axumblade, the Lead Moderator. If you are banned and cannot login, email mods@vgchartz.com with your issue and you will get a response from the Lead Moderator. Do not post these issues in the forums, outside of moderator-sanctioned threads, or on the moderator’s wall - doing so may result in moderation action against you."

Furthermore...

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=160420&page=1

And here, to prove that you (and pezus) actually knew about the thread and ruling - http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5358620 - You both posted in it.