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cyberninja45 said:

Sorry to say but this is the price ms and sony would have to pay for building their games around shallow gameplay, with pretty graphics and violence used to catch a gamer (as is the case with most western developed games).

This makes you sound very ignorant dude. I do agree that 720/PS4 will be much more powerful than the Wii U, but for different reasons.



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"Its quite simple really ms and sony need top of the line graphics to survive because many of their games would be pretty bland (gameplay wise) without it "

i honestly laugh my head off every time i see nintendo fans making these kinds of comments as imo some of the shallowest gameplay i've ever experienced has been from nintendo like 2d mario or dk games ( run forwards and hop over obstacles... very complex )

but regardless i agree with the sentiment that it makes no sense releasing consoles with a slight jump in power over those already out



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Of course I would buy a new Xbox for Halo 5 even if it didn't have much better graphics. And how dare you say it's based around violence and "shallow" gameplay?

Those who have played Halo knows that the multiplayer is all about excellent gameplay, with the single player being based around excellent story, gameplay and level design.


What makes you think I never played Halo??? All the games I mentioned I have played else they would not be called out. Although to be honest FPS are not my favourite genre.

Halo story good yes, but I guess you can have a good story on any platform (meaning you don't need to upgrade a console to improve the story).

Gameplay and Level design-hmmm point and shoot things either in corridors or open world areas (this does not only apply to halo but many fps) I guess it depends on your taste nothing really ground breaking here. Multiplayer is fun I guess



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Mr Khan said:
There are other vehicles through which Sony and Microsoft could innovate with only minor upgrades. Microsoft is certainly trying to build something with a high level of Windows 8 integration, which would necessarily be a different experience than the 360 even if it only has something on the order of 2-4 GB of RAM


I guess Ms can change but what about sony they have used the dual shock controller since they began making consoles. I find it hard to see them straying away from this since everytime they tried it did not turn out too good



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Sal.Paradise said:

Lol @ 'bland' and 'shallow' gameplay. That 'bland' gamepad gameplay has produced hundreds, no thousands, of brilliant, exquisite videogames.


Of course it has. But there will reach a time when you can only do so much with the same contoller just look at this gen with the HD twins most games are copy and paste of another with a different theme (story) but same gameplay. I guess thats why nintendo keeps changing up there control scheme to keep things appearing to look fresh in their games



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I was kinda thinking the same thing a while back.



next gen is about social connectivity not so shinny graphics.

oh, and good games. Without those you can be as powerful as god, you'll go the way of the atari...



Make no mistake this is not a pro wiiU or nintendo thread as nintendo falls into the same category except they have taken steps to keep their games appearing fresh ,radically changing their controls over two gens and changing their gameplay compare Super mario galaxy to Super mario Sunshine, in contrast compare God of war 3 gameplay to GOW 1&2 compare the Halo's.

Although nintendo have the added bonus this time of their games first appearnce in Hd which many people have waited for.



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I honestly doubt that the successor of the 360 and PS3 will be "much more powerful" than the WiiU. One reason is because there's no way to gauge what "much more powerful" means unless you put it into technical terms. When I think "much more powerful," I think 6-8 times more powerful. I do not think it will be 6-8 times more powerful than the Wii U when the Wii U is already as good as confirmed to be more powerful than the PS3 and 360 as it is. Not only this, but there is a user here who constantly actually makes some good sense when talking about this issue.

1) Making a system more powerful requires more investment on both Microsoft/Sony and the developers for the system, which means much more money spent. This isn't a good idea considering their financial loss history and how it will just keep on going unless they do something about it.

2) Making a system more powerful not only costs more money for the companies, but will drive the costs up for the system. If the Wii U ends up being something like $349.99, then the "much more powerful" system will end up being "much more expensive" as Nintendo has started going with the trend of making their systems cheaper for what you get with your money.

3) When you use more power in a system, the system exhausts more heat. Withstanding more heat means providing better cooling and higher quality materials to keep the system from damaging. In some cases, the power would be nearly impossible to cool down to a proper temperature unless a really expensive cooling system were put into it. This would mean bulking up the system, driving up costs, and more potential for malfunctions resulting in lower ratings (and lower ratings means less people willing to go out and buy one)

4) The graphics now are already nearing a cap to where we can't tell the difference, and the only places where we can really improve a lot on are things like AI.



If they only rely on power again, Sony will end up dead last but receive ports.

Microsoft will still have America but their 1st party games will get long in the tooth.



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