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pezus said:

You mentioned one or two: Gosling, McAvoy but you are forgetting about Hardy, Fassbender, Daniel-Day Lewis, Christian Bale, DiCaprio, Brad Pitt. All of which are still great (Bale, Pitt, Lewis, DiCaprio) or are just beginning to hit their stride (Gosling, Hardy, Fassbender etc.).

Oh, Bale, Pitt, DiCaprio and Lewis are all an era older than Gosling and McAvoy, so I didn't bundle them together.

I would bundle Norton with the above, all are in their forties and older. Gosling and McAvoy are late 20s early 30s.

Fassbender isn't that great an actor, nothing in the level of Dicaprio and the gang.

The funniest thing about this topic is that there is so little talent in our contemporaries that it's even difficult to contrast.



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I watched the last Transformers movie and I wasn't that impressed at all with his acting. The scene where he tries to drive his car into the base and they lift his car up is stupid as hell. The way he overreacted in that scene was pretty bad. He was pretty much screaming at the top of his lungs just because they lifted his shitty car up a little off the ground. That was probably one of the dumbest movie scenes I have ever seen.



I don't get the hate...He's a pretty good actor imo.



Yeah, he's the comic relief for action movies. Which is always an important part of action movies based on children's toys, but not for serious action like the Bourne series.

The interesting thing about Shia action movies is that they make the comic relief character the starring role. And for that specific sub-sub-genre of action movie Shia is well suited.

It's good for people to find their place in the world.



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theprof00 said:

Shia, in the fiction world is called an audience surrogate actor.
Basically, his entire existence in any role is to represent the audience's understanding. He thinks superficially, perhaps sometimes showing times of brilliance in one aspect, always responds to situations honestly (like surprise when something pops out, questioning something that's complicated).
Think also about his looks, he can pull of "surprised" very well, which is what companies want the audience to feel. Furthermore, he has the looks of your average American composite. Average features, average voice, average height, etc.
Basically, shia is you. Therefore, you hate yourself :D
But seriously, if you hate shia like I do, it's likely because he is inconsequential to every film, and his existence is a mockery to the people watching it.

To make it clearer, if you were to see a movie without shia, Shia is "that guy" in the audience who provides a running commentary.

Consequently, if you're making a movie where you think the story is too wacky, you tack on an actor like Shia and everything is supposed to be fine. IMO though, Shia has ruined nearly every movie for me that he's been in. Though it's not his fault for Indy.

An example of a good audience surrogate is the lead actor in district 9.

I just imagined Shia instead of Sharlton Copley as Wikus, and I puked. 

Just the thought of him being in there momentarily ruined District 9 for me. 



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I'm indifferent to him. I don't feel his presence on the screen at all. His existence in his films is just boring to me.



A douche who can't act and drags down the quality of every movie he's in, nothing more and nothing less.



He will always be that guy from Holes to me.



No, but he's half decent. I don't like him nor do I dislike him.



I think hes needs to be put in different roles. Always playing the same one over and over.