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pezus said:

It's all coming together now, like a puzzle.

Radish, why did you scan stefl and not zero first? You had already made a decision

- In the privacy of the PMs, I like branching off from the "official" plan; I felt that I'd be more likely to strike mafia by scanning stefl. Obviously in the end it didn't actually matter who I scanned first

Remember prof? Yeah, he told us to never distrust the cop. Remember this post? Here he says it AGAIN. Clearly trying to increase my trust in the cop.

- He was mafia! Why would prof attract attention to me like that if I was also mafia? Prof is a great player- he only said that to cause confusion, and you're falling for it 

This is what I thought earlier: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4779413

prof claimed pinkie pie in the end (away from the twilight sparkle group) to try to clear the remaining mafia in the pinkie pie group and increase suspicion on the twilight sparkle group. I'm guessing Radish is not a pinkie pie in reality.

- Do you remember ages ago I said "roles match with character somewhat"? (The thing that got me almost lynched in the first place)? It was because of this: 

In one of the episodes Pinkie acts like Sherlock Holmes, and plays the role of the cop to solve the mystery of the eaten cake. 





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pezus said:
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And you're acting like I wasn't suspicious at all of Zero yesterday - I was. I was suspicious of him the least out of the 4 of you, but I was still suspicious. It's just when looking at the events from the perspective that I've laid out, it makes more sense than any other

+the day before you insta-voted me with sloppy reasoning. So which one is it, zero or me? Or you maybe?

Right now, I don't know - I've got evidence for both, as you can see. Although the parts against you basically come down to why did you hammer mario yesterday? You didn't give much of a reason at the time

Exactly, which makes your decision to go after zero even weirder. Why not go the easy way and push for my lynch? Why is zero the mafia and not me. You honestly don't seem to have a case.

Because after looking at the posts from yesterday, I'm somewhat sure that you're not the mafia that I'm looking for.

Another thing to consider: I already explained that zero would be less likely to nightkill me if he thought I was a cop that could scan him innocent, but you've pointed out that the same would be the case if he was genuinely town (which makes sense). HOWEVER, remember also that mantle was very suspicious of Zero yesterday - he voted him, after all - whereas you said yourself that I wasn't suspicious of Zero yesterday.

My work so far today has mainly been focusing on why I wasn't killed last night. If Zero thought that I would still trust him today, it doesn't matter if I was a cop or not, it would be a far better choice to leave me alive than mantle. I can't think of any reasons why you would leave me alive for today, hence why my suspicions of you are lower (don't think that I'm not ready to lynch you as soon as I find evidence suggesting that's the right thing to do though)



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pezus said:
Could you find the post where you said the roles match with the character (or tell me when you said that)? I remember you fishing for elements, but not that.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4745974 



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pezus said:
radishhead said:
pezus said:
radishhead said:
pezus said:
radishhead said:
And you're acting like I wasn't suspicious at all of Zero yesterday - I was. I was suspicious of him the least out of the 4 of you, but I was still suspicious. It's just when looking at the events from the perspective that I've laid out, it makes more sense than any other

+the day before you insta-voted me with sloppy reasoning. So which one is it, zero or me? Or you maybe?

Right now, I don't know - I've got evidence for both, as you can see. Although the parts against you basically come down to why did you hammer mario yesterday? You didn't give much of a reason at the time

Exactly, which makes your decision to go after zero even weirder. Why not go the easy way and push for my lynch? Why is zero the mafia and not me. You honestly don't seem to have a case.

Because after looking at the posts from yesterday, I'm somewhat sure that you're not the mafia that I'm looking for.

Another thing to consider: I already explained that zero would be less likely to nightkill me if he thought I was a cop that could scan him innocent, but you've pointed out that the same would be the case if he was genuinely town (which makes sense). HOWEVER, remember also that mantle was very suspicious of Zero yesterday - he voted him, after all - whereas you said yourself that I wasn't suspicious of Zero yesterday.

My work so far today has mainly been focusing on why I wasn't killed last night. If Zero thought that I would still trust him today, it doesn't matter if I was a cop or not, it would be a far better choice to leave me alive than mantle. I can't think of any reasons why you would leave me alive for today, hence why my suspicions of you are lower (don't think that I'm not ready to lynch you as soon as I find evidence suggesting that's the right thing to do though)


No, I said you changed your vote quickly

Why would mantle be a better choice than you? And why would the same not be the case for me? Your cop role is basically nullified on both of us, work from that. Imagine that you're a vanilla townie

Because I definitely said some pro-zero things yesterday ("it's a good point" etc.) and so did you. Mantle was the only one of the 3 pushing for a Zero lynch yesterday. Not to mention, you're still technically the last mafia if we were to continue our "one mafia in each group" meta, and  forgetting that Prof probably double-bluffed. Mantle didn't have any solid evidence against him. So those are good reasons to kill him rather than us two. 

It's midnight here, I'm leaving. When I started this argument, I was thinking 60% zero, 40% pezus; but pezus's relentless attacks on me, and me having to prove my case with actual evidence repeatedly has ironically made me much more certain that I'm on the right track. I'm going to leave this vote here, go to sleep, and see how it turns out when I wake up.

Zero, I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but all of these points have really begun stacking up against you. If you are mafia, you've played a really good game to get this far, and you've definitely confused us all.

Vote: Zero



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The fact that Pezus didn't second that vote while I was sleeping confirms to me that he's town, so that's part of the job done at least

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My arguments were completely solid - I don't see how I could have said anything else to get you to see the truth.

Good game, Zero



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