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Wipeout series was cool but old. I thought colony wars was awesome. I still have my wipeout HD free from the PSN shutdown. It's a game series that has run it's course. I mean it was a long running series. I think sony said we've been there done that with this title. They are probably moving onto other new projects. We all knew that sony would be cutting the fat on the gaming side. I think wipeout was a great franchise but after almost 2 decades it was time to shut it down.



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So lets see

Big big- never really a huge studio despite the name, probably were planned on being chopped before little deviants was actually out.

Zipper- SOCOM 4 sank them. Unit 13 was probably far enough in development to allow them to finish before being cut.

Liverpool- 200 people for a psn and a vita game in six years is far too many but even with that it doesn't make sense to drop the whole studio. Unless they were an enormous money sink.



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VicViper said:
theprof00 said:

So, it was just a joke, but yet you try to rationalize it being serious with the very next sentence?

You're simply wrong, and yes, sensationalist.

Sorry having touched a nerve there. Never tried to rationalize anything. It's just what it is and I found strange and very coincidental. The curse part was the joke, but apparently didn't ressonate well with you.

Implying I'm upset lol.

I'm just pointing out a atrange and very coincidental trend that most of your post about PS systems tend to be negative comments, er, jokes. Amirite?

(for the record, when you say "it was just a joke" and then explain why you said it, and that 'actually, it holds some basis', that's called rationalizing.)



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Kresnik said:

Fuck. My. Life.

This is genuinely some of the most upsetting news I could have read logging onto here.

Psygnosis were such an important dev to me. They defined the PS1. They never made a bad WipEout game. Colony Wars & G-Police were magnificent. They helped many devs out who today have become amazing (Rockstar North, Ubisoft Reflections etc.)

I would list them as one of my top 3 favourite dev teams of all time.  Up there with Bullfrog and Insomniac.  Really talented people at the top of their game.

They were incredible.

The offices are only about 15 minutes away from where I live. I literally said to some friends of mine about a fortnight ago "Do you reckon they'll do a tour of their studio for me?"

This has genuinely upset me. What the fuck.

:((((

Well go to their studio now, I'm sure they'd love to have someone drop by.



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That this came after an asset review tells me that the Liverpool Studio was considered a weak link, possibly because their existing projects weren't well received internally. Really, in the last 10 years, the only thing they have to hang their hat on is WipeOut. That's not bad, but it's not incredible, either.

My guess is that Worldwide Studios decided Liverpool was going to be unprofitable, or at least, a poor use of assets. Rather than have people work on projects they didn't have faith in, or spend more money building new projects from the ground up, they sent that talent to work on projects with a higher level of support.



theprof00 said:

Implying I'm upset lol.

I'm just pointing out a atrange and very coincidental trend that most of your post about PS systems tend to be negative comments, er, jokes. Amirite?

(for the record, when you say "it was just a joke" and then explain why you said it, and that 'actually, it holds some basis', that's called rationalizing.)


Does not hold any basis. I never tried to rationalize that into their last three games being on Vita, but by a cosmic coincidence or not, they are. And because of that MORBID coincidence, I used curse.

BTW... I never talk bad about games and systems - the only one I did (in one post or two) is COD, which I regret already and probably won't ever talk about its quality (still find a mistake giving the world's most valuable IP right now to Nihilistic Studios especially in Vita's situation). I don't talk negatives at all about that. Just sales and as they're not shining right now, what good is there to talk? You probably will love my views of 3DS in the west.

(Of course I'm more Nintendo inclined too, I don't hide this at all)



Smeags said:
Guys, we had to moderate 3 different instances of flaming in this thread, and that is completely unacceptable. If you have an issue with a poster, please bring it to our (aka the moderators) attention. This thread is not about Sales2099 or his YouTube videos, it's about the unfortunate closing of Liverpool Studios, so stay on topic.

From the Forum Rules:

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I'm sorry but how does Sales dude not get banned with comments like that? That is the definition of flaming. Evey single sony related the same attitude and now even worse when people lose their jobs ceases the opportunity to make fun of sony fans. And no, I don't blame sales2099, but the moderors. Where is the line exactly? Him doing a victory dance? Feel free to ban me for expressing my disappointment about how moderation works. I've been using this website for more than three years and I never got a single ban or warning, but enough is enough here).

On topic: Just checked their wiki page and it seems that I haven't played any of their games, but it's sad for the developers who lost their job (even if they get a job somewhere else, it still won't be the same), the fans and also for the state of the gaming industry. This is really depressing.



naruball said:

I'm sorry but how does Sales dude not get banned with comments like that? That is the definition of flaming. Evey single sony related the same attitude and now even worse when people lose their jobs ceases the opportunity to make fun of sony fans. And no, I don't blame sales2099, but the moderors. Where is the line exactly? Him doing a victory dance? Feel free to ban me for expressing my disappointment about how moderation works. I've been using this website for more than three years and I never got a single ban or warning, but enough is enough here).

Sales has been banned already (you can check if you'd like ^_~) for baiting. But if you still want to be banned, I can do that if you'd like.



Let me just say that our mod team is getting better and better. Although I do feel bad for MUGEN's ban, still understandable.