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NintendoPie said:
Blacksaber said:
NintendoPie said:
I don't know why they are trying to cover it up. People'll keep finding out the "real" numbers.


Stocks, if they were to revel those numers that day it would of been horrid damage on their stocks.

So the stocks can't be affected by the reveal of the true numbers after the briefing?

They will but the stocks were bound to drop that day thanks to them losing money that quarter add on this and it woul off been a disaster.



Former something....

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SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
over at gaf, they're saying ps3 shipped 2.1 million.



link?



Blacksaber said:
NintendoPie said:
Blacksaber said:
NintendoPie said:
I don't know why they are trying to cover it up. People'll keep finding out the "real" numbers.


Stocks, if they were to revel those numers that day it would of been horrid damage on their stocks.

So the stocks can't be affected by the reveal of the true numbers after the briefing?

They will but the stocks were bound to drop that day thanks to them losing money that quarter add on this and it woul off been a disaster.

Because that info was "public" from the time of the earnings call, it gives enough time for any directors/employees with stock to sell it off before the droip hits but without being accused of insider trading.



Soleron said:
Blacksaber said:
NintendoPie said:
Blacksaber said:
NintendoPie said:
I don't know why they are trying to cover it up. People'll keep finding out the "real" numbers.


Stocks, if they were to revel those numers that day it would of been horrid damage on their stocks.

So the stocks can't be affected by the reveal of the true numbers after the briefing?

They will but the stocks were bound to drop that day thanks to them losing money that quarter add on this and it woul off been a disaster.

Because that info was "public" from the time of the earnings call, it gives enough time for any directors/employees with stock to sell it off before the droip hits but without being accused of insider trading.

Indeed, such an omission of information to investors is supposed to be illegal... I don't recall exceptions / limits to the rule (?)



Why some people think Sony can lie?they can't
and nothing wrong if PS3 shipped 2.1m since they have some...eh..."too high stock level" of PS3 right now



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Or maybe the 2.2m is sold not shipped but I doubt that.



kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
Or maybe the 2.2m is sold not shipped but I doubt that.


And tbh that would still be awful.

Yeap... sold or shipped it's bad, really bad.



Blacksaber said:
NintendoPie said:
I don't know why they are trying to cover it up. People'll keep finding out the "real" numbers.


Stocks, if they were to revel those numers that day it would of been horrid damage on their stocks.


Sony has a diverse enough line up of products the poor performance of the PS-Vita will have a fairly minimal impact on their overall stock price ...

I suspect the reason they didn't release the PS-Vita's numbers is because they're afraid of what impact that will have on the PS-Vita itself. There is a pretty nasty feedback loop for systems with poor sales performance, third party publishers don't want to support a system with a small userbase, customers don't want to support a system with few games, and both groups know how the other thinks, so when sales for a system are low fewer third party publishers support it and fewer gamers buy it; which results in the small game library which justifies consumers not buying it, and a small userbase which justifies third party publishers not supporting it.



HappySqurriel said:

Sony has a diverse enough line up of products the poor performance of the PS-Vita will have a fairly minimal impact on their overall stock price ...

I suspect the reason they didn't release the PS-Vita's numbers is because they're afraid of what impact that will have on the PS-Vita itself. There is a pretty nasty feedback loop for systems with poor sales performance, third party publishers don't want to support a system with a small userbase, customers don't want to support a system with few games, and both groups know how the other thinks, so when sales for a system are low fewer third party publishers support it and fewer gamers buy it; which results in the small game library which justifies consumers not buying it, and a small userbase which justifies third party publishers not supporting it.

In simply words. Circle of doom.



Galaki said:
HappySqurriel said:

Sony has a diverse enough line up of products the poor performance of the PS-Vita will have a fairly minimal impact on their overall stock price ...

I suspect the reason they didn't release the PS-Vita's numbers is because they're afraid of what impact that will have on the PS-Vita itself. There is a pretty nasty feedback loop for systems with poor sales performance, third party publishers don't want to support a system with a small userbase, customers don't want to support a system with few games, and both groups know how the other thinks, so when sales for a system are low fewer third party publishers support it and fewer gamers buy it; which results in the small game library which justifies consumers not buying it, and a small userbase which justifies third party publishers not supporting it.

In simply words. Circle of doom.



Almost... the circle of doom includes the retailers who will remove the vita from the shelves or at least decrease the shelve space in favor of products that do sell... On this site the doom thinkers always forget about the retailers.. They can doom a product more then we give them credit for...



 

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