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CGI-Quality said:
selnor said:

Best selling in 2011.

Not according to VGC

2011 Hardware:

PS3 14,128,407    
X360 13,808,365  

I know many here like to side with VGC "estimations" because your on this site.

But Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo know muc more accurately than VGC wo won last year.

Microsoft said very clear on the big stage loads of times, they sold to consumer WW the most in 2011. No contest from Sony or Nintendo.

They are not allowed to lie like that. Especially not several times.

VGC are  wrong. I dont care who here says what. Microsoft would be in alot of trouble affecting there stock price wit lies like that.

VGC are  wrong for 2011.



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Nsanity said:
Persistantthug said:

Lots of media sources are in the back pockets of Microsoft, especially some websites and news media, whom some are willing to stretch truths and some even outright lie and/or fabricate statements.

This is part of Microsoft's agenda, as it learned years ago, that in order to secure good standing, having good PR tell you their product(s) and agendas are good and nonthreatening (in such cases as anti trust issues), that's actually half the battle.  So over the last 10 to 15 yars, Microsoft has invested in "paid hands" in media circles to make what they true, in a perception meets reality paradigm.

Microsoft beats both Sony and Nintendo in the perception is reality front.....no game is even required on MS's end.




Actually there was a somewhat recent SAN JOSE MERCURY NEWS article about it, pertaining specifically to Microsoft's own Antitrust issues, and their fight against Google....

here it is:

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_21172515/obrien-microsoft-and-google-battle-influence-policy-shadows

 

it's an interesting read if you have time.

All the major companies do it to some degree....some are more blatent than others though.



My Home Theater (or at least what's left of it, fucking Nargaroth killed my speakers) lowers volume the higher the number settings are, increases volume the lower the setting numbers are. And I thought that was fucked up.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

AbbathTheGrim said:
My Home Theater (or at least what's left of it, fucking Nargaroth killed my speakers) lowers volume the higher the number settings are, increases volume the lower the setting numbers are. And I thought that was fucked up.

I you really want to know, from the avs forum:

Home Theater Calibration.

Why do we calibrate our home theaters, we do this so we can get a balance between the level of speech and all the effects out of the individual speakers

AV Receivers have a DB counter.

Having a db counter on an AV receiver is for calibration and balencing to dolby reference, this is acheived buy using a SPL meter and special test tones.

This is mainly done for balancing movie sound.

The test tones are pink noise recorded at a lower level than full reference, the reason the tones are recorded at a lower level is so you can balance you Home theater with out going deaf in the process.

The tones are recorded at -20db below reference for AVIA DVD and -30 db below ref for internal tones from an AV Receiver.

Both DVD and internal test tones methods give the same results.

The amp it set to 00 and the tone is played through each channel and then you balance all speaker channels levels to 75 db.

1)The point of putting the amp on 0 and calibrating is then you can play movies at -10 and be 10 db below dolby reference level or play at -40 and be 40db below dolby reference.

2)Full dolby reference is usualy peaks of 105db per channel and 115db for LFE (bass).

IF you use bass management and run speakers set to small then the LFE and sound below 80hz is passed to the subwoofer and the bass level is bumped up from 115 to 121 db.

Full dolby refenence is very loud and can be damaging to you AV kit.

I watch most movies between -25db below ref at night time and -15/20db below ref in the day, full reference is too loud for me, I want to keep some hearing for the next 50 years.



haha the author ninja edited his article



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deskpro2k3 said:
haha the author ninja edited his article

He ha, now it says " most noticeably with one of the best-selling game consoles of all time: the Xbox 360. "

Which is true given 360 is the 8th best selling out of the 26 that VGC list.

Then if you take out the handhelds it's the 4th best selling only behind PS2, PS and Wii.



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SvennoJ said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
My Home Theater (or at least what's left of it, fucking Nargaroth killed my speakers) lowers volume the higher the number settings are, increases volume the lower the setting numbers are. And I thought that was fucked up.

I you really want to know, from the avs forum:

Home Theater Calibration.

Why do we calibrate our home theaters, we do this so we can get a balance between the level of speech and all the effects out of the individual speakers

AV Receivers have a DB counter.

Having a db counter on an AV receiver is for calibration and balencing to dolby reference, this is acheived buy using a SPL meter and special test tones.

This is mainly done for balancing movie sound.

The test tones are pink noise recorded at a lower level than full reference, the reason the tones are recorded at a lower level is so you can balance you Home theater with out going deaf in the process.

The tones are recorded at -20db below reference for AVIA DVD and -30 db below ref for internal tones from an AV Receiver.

Both DVD and internal test tones methods give the same results.

The amp it set to 00 and the tone is played through each channel and then you balance all speaker channels levels to 75 db.

1)The point of putting the amp on 0 and calibrating is then you can play movies at -10 and be 10 db below dolby reference level or play at -40 and be 40db below dolby reference.

2)Full dolby reference is usualy peaks of 105db per channel and 115db for LFE (bass).

IF you use bass management and run speakers set to small then the LFE and sound below 80hz is passed to the subwoofer and the bass level is bumped up from 115 to 121 db.

Full dolby refenence is very loud and can be damaging to you AV kit.

I watch most movies between -25db below ref at night time and -15/20db below ref in the day, full reference is too loud for me, I want to keep some hearing for the next 50 years.

That was... helpful.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

dont forget M$ pays alot



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I find this article extremely funny for a number of reasons. Most importantly it reminds me an argument I had with someone on Gamespot:

him: multiplats always sell twice as much on 360 compared to ps3
me: see, I don't know about "twice", plus some games sell better on ps3
him: oh really? Like what? give me an example
me: Well i think Dante's Inferno has sold more on ps3 than 360 (source: vgchartz)
him: na-ah. *Gives a link to a gamespot link of npd numbers (of the month it launched).
me: you do realise that just because it sold better the first month of its release it doesn't mean that its ltd sales are better. This game must have had better legs on the ps3
him: whatever man. i used a link from this site. You're just butthurt
me: -_-

Similarly, I remember people claiming that the playstation division was bleeding money (even though one couldn't tell since Sony hadn't given numbers for the playstation division alone). Whenever someone would say that Sony is doing bad, but the playstation part ok, certain users rushed to disprove that claim. Then Sony reveals that actually last year they did make a profit. Turkish makes a thread and gets attacked fro making a thread about last year (I think by people -not sure who- who were sure that ps was bleeding money).

My point: It's fine to admit you made a mistake. We all do. How about we don't attack each other and admit that we were wrong. (I remember predicting that modnation racers would sell 3m LT; awful prediction)
In this particular case, had he come out and say, "Sorry guys. Can't believe I actually wrote that. Here are some actual numbers for anyone interested", I think people would be fine with it. Now he just seems like a joke.