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happydolphin said:
Two people begin a race, both strong, both able. Both can finish the race.

One gets to the finish line, the other decides to stop half way. There is no race-related reason why he stopped. The idea is to finish the race, that's why he entered.

How would you explain what he did?


Perhaps he was losing and he decided it wasn't worth continuing?



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Jay520 said:
happydolphin said:
Two people begin a race, both strong, both able. Both can finish the race.

One gets to the finish line, the other decides to stop half way. There is no race-related reason why he stopped. The idea is to finish the race, that's why he entered.

How would you explain what he did?


Perhaps he was losing and he decided it wasn't worth continuing?

Let's say it's an obstacle course, and the point isn't to finish in a specific rank, but simply to get to the very end (think Spartan Race).



happydolphin said:

Let's say it's an obstacle course, and the point isn't to finish in a specific rank, but simply to get to the very end (think Spartan Race).


Perhaps he had to use the restroom?



d21lewis said:
Coke=/=Murder.

What's going on in your head?

coke = murder

 

 

 

i hope my sarcasm is volatile here...



 

Jay520 said:
happydolphin said:

Let's say it's an obstacle course, and the point isn't to finish in a specific rank, but simply to get to the very end (think Spartan Race).


Perhaps he had to use the restroom?

Assuming he didn't have a legitimate reason to stop (mentioned in the original post), like for example feeling sick and any other smarty-pants answer you could come up with.



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happydolphin said:

Assuming he didn't have a legitimate reason to stop (mentioned in the original post), like for example feeling sick and any other smarty-pants answer you could come up with.


To that question, I do not know. Probably he is the only person that knows why he stopped. I don't think any person in a race would stop without a legitimate reason. I don't think that scenario would ever occur in real life.



Jay520 said:
happydolphin said:

Assuming he didn't have a legitimate reason to stop (mentioned in the original post), like for example feeling sick and any other smarty-pants answer you could come up with.


To that question, I do not know. Probably he is the only person that knows why he stopped. I don't think any person in a race would stop without a legitimate reason. I don't think that scenario would ever occur in real life.

I think that answers the question in OP.



Exile1987 said:
or the third option steal both and save the doller.


Enter Trayvon Martin



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happydolphin said:
Jay520 said:

To that question, I do not know. Probably he is the only person that knows why he stopped. I don't think any person in a race would stop without a legitimate reason. I don't think that scenario would ever occur in real life.

I think that answers the question in OP.


I don't understand. I said the situation would never happen. Doesn't that support the OP?



Jay520 said:
happydolphin said:
Jay520 said:

To that question, I do not know. Probably he is the only person that knows why he stopped. I don't think any person in a race would stop without a legitimate reason. I don't think that scenario would ever occur in real life.

I think that answers the question in OP.


I don't understand. I said the situation would never happen. Doesn't that support the OP?

It supports free will, because there should really be no situation where two people having the ability to choose one way or the other, one choses to do the wrong thing and the other the right thing. As such, the person who makes the wrong choice while having the power to make the right choice is like the person failing to finish the race. You can call it fate, but it should really be called dropping the ball.