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happydolphin said:
kitler53 said:

this thread just makes your other thread look even more ridiculous.  3DS sells ~5M units in 16 months but wii U could do 5M in a month and half (or less)...

They follow very different curves. But yeah, I don't expect the WiiU to sell 5M either. I'd say 4m.

The Wii sold 3m in a month and a half upon launch, so 4-5M isn't hoping so hard.

you are making a very bold assumption that not only will wii U not just not follow a "normal" console curve but also outperform a phenomenon by 33%.  given a november launch (thus launching at the ~same time as the wii), if wii U's 2012 sales even out performs wii's 2006 sales i'll be impressed.



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kitler53 said:

you are making a very bold assumption that not only will wii U not just not follow a "normal" console curve but also outperform a phenomenon by 33%.  given a november launch (thus launching at the ~same time as the wii), if wii U's 2012 sales even out performs wii's 2006 sales i'll be impressed.

@bold. You know me :) But I wouldn't call it an assumption as much as I would call it a bold prediction like you said. :3

Yeah, like I said to mikeintellivision I'd consider the WiiU a failure if it sold below 2M.



spurgeonryan said:
F0X said:
Like every 3DS sales thread I've ever posted in, I shall say that the 3DS needs more Pokemon.


You do not think that nintendo has saturated itself with Pokemon right now? Two games and some eshop apps kinda seem overboard.

Too bad none of those games are for 3DS.

They need to make a Mainline Pokemon so Pokemon Fans are forced to buy the 3DS like they were with Pokemon Pearl and Diamond.



Spurge, here take this:

Month DS 3DS
1 2004 Nov 486,391 2011 Mar 350,918
2   Dec 816,218   Apr 220,021
3 2005 Jan 141,999   May 94,459
4   Feb 129,478   Jun 102,090
5   Mar 147,647   Jul 75,118
6   Apr 62,394   Aug 234,387
7   May 58,594   Sep 293,443
8   Jun 123,586   Oct 249,784
9   uly 81,920   Nov 842,397
10   Aug 98,893   Dec 1,644,736.00
11   Sep 178,646 2012 Jan 237,840
12   Oct 145,379   Feb 239,203
13   Nov 351,935   Mar 198,458
14   Dec 1,083,532   Apr 143,729
15 2006 Jan 157,694   May 122,409
16   Feb 159,191   Jun 165,842
  Total   4,223,497     5,214,834


kitler53 said:

this thread just makes your other thread look even more ridiculous.  3DS sells ~5M units in 16 months but wii U could do 5M in a month and half (or less)...

I don't agree with his predictions in that thread, but you're missing the fact that the ~5M sales of 3DS are one region only, while he is predicting 5M in about two months globally. Globally, the 3DS has sold over 18 million consoles in its first 16 months.

 

NintendoPie said:

Too bad none of those games are for 3DS.

He mentioned the eShop apps, which ARE for 3DS, and B2/W2 have extra 3DS-exclusive functions, including StreetPass support. The week of B2/W2's release in Japan, 3DS received an 18% hardware boost, despite the fact that it was the week the XL was announced (weekly 3DS HW sales have dropped every week since B2/W2's launch, despite big openings for games such as Culdcept and Etrian Odyssey IV, most likely due to this announcement).

With the XL already out and the Holiday season approaching at the time of B2/W2's western release, I expect the games will give 3DS hardware a significant regional boost of at least 20%, provided there isn't a major release the week before.



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spurgeonryan said:

What is this? The same thing that I post in the OP, just nicer?

Nicer, and can easily be used to graph it, like this ;)



the_dengle said:
kitler53 said:

this thread just makes your other thread look even more ridiculous.  3DS sells ~5M units in 16 months but wii U could do 5M in a month and half (or less)...

I don't agree with his predictions in that thread, but you're missing the fact that the ~5M sales of 3DS are one region only, while he is predicting 5M in about two months globally. Globally, the 3DS has sold over 18 million consoles in its first 16 months.

 

NintendoPie said:

Too bad none of those games are for 3DS.

He mentioned the eShop apps, which ARE for 3DS, and B2/W2 have extra 3DS-exclusive functions, including StreetPass support. The week of B2/W2's release in Japan, 3DS received an 18% hardware boost, despite the fact that it was the week the XL was announced (weekly 3DS HW sales have dropped every week since B2/W2's launch, despite big openings for games such as Culdcept and Etrian Odyssey IV, most likely due to this announcement).

With the XL already out and the Holiday season approaching at the time of B2/W2's western release, I expect the games will give 3DS hardware a significant regional boost of at least 20%, provided there isn't a major release the week before.

An App won't have as much of an affect as an actual game for the 3DS.



I think that the difining moment where it can be seen if 3DS will equal or surpass DS, will be when 3DS reaches the month of DS Lite and NSMB.

There were, in my opinion, five things that made DS a hit: DS Lite, NSMB, Nintendogs, Brain Training and Mario Kart.
So far `we have Mario Kart 7 and Nintendogs (which has pretty much failed to be effective).
3DS XL is a redesign but i don`t think that it will be, in long run, equal to the DS Lite redesign. Probably because the consoles still resembles too much DS.
NSMB2 will be hit for sure. Just waiting to see how far it can drive 3DS' sales in the long run.
Brain Training... can it still be effective after all those clones? I honestly see this one doing better in Japan than in the rest of the world (at least, in tie ratio).

Pokemon might just be a bigger hit due mainly to Streetpass. I don`t if it`s possible, but imagine that you could choose a Pokemon or two (don`t know how the game works! :D ) for automatic fights through Streetpass? You could increase/level up your Pokemon/characters easily and would allow for more people to really embrace Pokemon and take it to another level!



DélioPT said:
NSMB2 will be hit for sure. Just waiting to see how far it can drive 3DS' sales in the long run.
Brain Training... can it still be effective after all those clones? I honestly see this one doing better in Japan than in the rest of the world (at least, in tie ratio).

For this segment of your post, here are the sales of the brain training games.

GameYearNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day 2005 4.71 9.05 4.16 2.03 19.96
Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day 2005 3.41 5.31 5.32 1.18 15.21

And the hardware figures by region:

PlatformNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
Nintendo DS (DS) 55.42 51.44 33.01 12.43 152.30

Tie Ratio:

GameNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day 8% 18% 13% 16% 13%
Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day 6% 10% 16% 9% 10%


happydolphin said:
spurgeonryan said:
darkknightkryta said:
I think it'll be more interesting to compare the second/third years. The DS really exploded those years, pulling 400k a week... in the off seasons.


All of those big games that hit Japan early this year and over the next few months will be hitting ( hopefully) the West over this next year or so. So this could be the case for the 3DS as well. Plus the XL, Mario, Animal Crossing, Mansion, Paper Mario, and whatever else. It will be exciting to see.

You're absolutely right, the 3DS was blessed a year earlier than the 3DS. Year 2 holiday season will be explosive in the US.

As for why it's not destroying the front page (@darkknightkryta), it's because the 3DS is not performing in the West. That's not unusual, since the 3DS was not performing incredibly until only its 3rd year (2006). So, the 3DS is also expected to lag the Japanese success by a year, however the trend may be catalized due to big software released and remodel 1 year earlier. Since holiday 2012 will essentially be year 1.5 for the 3DS, the explosion trend will be pre-emptive by half a year sooner than the DS in terms of years from release.

Expect big sales this holiday season.

Well I'm still skeptical since the 3DS already has sequels to the games that made the DS a massive success.  And as I said earlier, the DS sold abnormally well outside of the holidays, which the 3DS has yet to do.  Last thing to add, it's still early, but I feel if New Super Mario Bros. 2 doesn't make the 3DS sell 200k plus a week outside of holidays, then I don't think the 3DS will outsell the DS (Will still sell a butt load).