richardhutnik said:
It is interesting that theft gets framed in the context of a gun held to the head, when apparently some individuals believe everything (like emergency rooms) are run by magic and don't need to be paid for. They can go off and use such services, or count on them being there, and if they can pay, feel paying is theft. So using services and not paying for them is theft, but getting the money to pay for them is theft.
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Did you ever think people call it theft not because they have to pay, but because the amount they have to pay in the United States for care is absolutely ridiculous? Go to the hospital once, and see how much one pain pill will run you (It will be ~$10 by the way...for something I could go buy 200 in the store for a couple dollars...yes, we are talking generic pain pills that they charge this much for), how about a simple little bandage that they will charge you like $20 for, or how about an ambulence ride that will run you $1,000-$2,000 (Yes, they honestly charged that much for the ambulence ride for my dad. To explain the situation further, the doctor at a clinic thought my dad may have been having a heart attack. They would not let me take my dad to the hospital. Instead, we had to wait approximately 1-2 miles away at the clinic for the ambulence, and I had to drive separately to the hospital. 1 hour later (yes, it HONESTLY took this long for the hospital to finally get my dad into the ER), my dad was finally in the ER receiving the care that he needed. Don't worry though, that 3-4 mile round trip, coupled with a 1 hour wait only cost like $1,500. Too bad they wouldn't let me bring my dad over there myself, granted it probably would have cost more than $1,500. Oh wait, it would have cost about $1). Lets continue on the ambulence part further. So lets assume we have an ambulence that costs $5/mile to operate (for comparison a pickup costs between 50 and 75 cents per mile) So if it was 4 miles round trip, we are up to $20. Now, lets assume there are some costs for the equipment used on the ride. Lets just say $100. Ok, so we are up to $120. So we have $1,380 remaining for...paying the 2 drivers and medical person that is inside the ambulence? And this is a Catholic hospital, so they are not for profit, so you shouldn't have to figure in profit to that ride.
Did you ever think this is why people say it is theft when they have to use services such as an emergency room?