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Agree with him?

yes 57 73.08%
 
no 21 26.92%
 
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Turkish said:
Millenium said:
Sad. And I'm not talking about the "article" (Can we even call it that?)


Yeah, seems slow news day for Kotaku. Anyway here is the question and answer from the interview:

Q: Why do you think it is that we don't see successful MMOs on consoles? It's been the realm of PC for a long time now, but console players want to play, right? Is it the game balancing, the mechanics or the hardware? Why have we not seen it?

Matt Firor: It's the classic desk vs. couch argument, but it is blurring over time. The current-gen and previous-gen MMOs were all about using the keyboard and mouse, and sure, everyone used things like Ventrilo and other voice chat services, but that only works in a small group. A lot of that has been thanks to design problems that people haven't focused on a lot, such as typing and controlling at the same time.

The 360, when announced was a pretty ridiculously cool device, but it is not so good anymore compared to PCs and even when it was announced PCs were still better than it. The technology was a little limiting for the size and scope of the world you could have. It mostly comes down to PCs being wide open. Online game development is all about doing whatever you want, pushing limitations, and it's just easier to do on an open platform. Someday, it may all change.

Exactly that. Voice chat works in small raids but talking to everyone in the zone is not going to work with voice chat.
Plus it's harder to read the text scrolling by on a tv and/or the UI will take up too much space to keep it all readable.
During raids I used to have 4 different text windows open next to following health and mana levels of 20 people and have enough room left over in high enough resolution to see what's going on around me.

Anyway it's not just the 360, this gen has gone on long enough. I don't really like moving the pc over and dealing with windows etc, but since interesting new console games are becoming harder to find, I also can't resist Steam any longer. I don't see anything I'm interested in coming out until Forza Horizon. So I'll plug the HDMI cable in the pc, connect the ps3 controller with usb and play games for $5 to $10 dollars instead. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has skipped plenty of games that they were interested in but didn't want to cough up $60 for.



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D-Joe said:
Persistantthug said:
D-Joe said:
Persistantthug said:

MMO's don't exist on the XBOX 360 because Microsoft won't allow them.....basically.

 

There are some on the PS3, however.

I hear that GUILD WARS 2 is coming next on the PS3.

are you from 2009?

No...

I'm from 2012.

 

And in 2012 there's still no MMORPG's outside of FF11 and Phantasy Star (which were done because Microsoft was desperate to get and appease the Japanese market).

There's been many devs to claim that their said MMO was planned for XBOX 360....all have been disappointed.

I'll believe it when I see a hard date.

do you know what is MHFO?

people always forget monster hunter^^

the only difference between ps3 and 360 in the mmo genre i really see is that sony itself brings or brang a few to the ps 3 like free realms or dc universe with their sony online devision but if it comes to games from other developers i see no big difference. those companies just don't see the reason to make mmos for console except a few



D-Joe said:
Persistantthug said:
D-Joe said:
Persistantthug said:

MMO's don't exist on the XBOX 360 because Microsoft won't allow them.....basically.

 

There are some on the PS3, however.

I hear that GUILD WARS 2 is coming next on the PS3.

are you from 2009?

No...

I'm from 2012.

 

And in 2012 there's still no MMORPG's outside of FF11 and Phantasy Star (which were done because Microsoft was desperate to get and appease the Japanese market).

There's been many devs to claim that their said MMO was planned for XBOX 360....all have been disappointed.

I'll believe it when I see a hard date.

do you know what is MHFO?

Um....

 

Is that actually a MASSIVELY Multiplayer Online Game?

 

That and the fact that it was never released in the US.....well, it pretty much falls in line with what I said earlier.



Persistantthug said:
D-Joe said:
Persistantthug said:
D-Joe said:
Persistantthug said:

MMO's don't exist on the XBOX 360 because Microsoft won't allow them.....basically.

 

There are some on the PS3, however.

I hear that GUILD WARS 2 is coming next on the PS3.

are you from 2009?

No...

I'm from 2012.

 

And in 2012 there's still no MMORPG's outside of FF11 and Phantasy Star (which were done because Microsoft was desperate to get and appease the Japanese market).

There's been many devs to claim that their said MMO was planned for XBOX 360....all have been disappointed.

I'll believe it when I see a hard date.

do you know what is MHFO?

Um....

 

Is that actually a MASSIVELY Multiplayer Online Game?

 

That and the fact that it was never released in the US.....well, it pretty much falls in line with what I said earlier.

yes,you need to pay monthly fee for MHFO

 

released in the US?i live in asia why i need to care it released in US or not?



i still wait for the answer how many mmos ps3 has sony online games excluded which don't count if we talk about mmo support from third party developers for a specific console.



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D-Joe said:
Persistantthug said:
D-Joe said:
Persistantthug said:
D-Joe said:
Persistantthug said:

MMO's don't exist on the XBOX 360 because Microsoft won't allow them.....basically.

 

There are some on the PS3, however.

I hear that GUILD WARS 2 is coming next on the PS3.

are you from 2009?

No...

I'm from 2012.

 

And in 2012 there's still no MMORPG's outside of FF11 and Phantasy Star (which were done because Microsoft was desperate to get and appease the Japanese market).

There's been many devs to claim that their said MMO was planned for XBOX 360....all have been disappointed.

I'll believe it when I see a hard date.

do you know what is MHFO?

Um....

 

Is that actually a MASSIVELY Multiplayer Online Game?

 

That and the fact that it was never released in the US.....well, it pretty much falls in line with what I said earlier.

yes,you need to pay monthly fee for MHFO

 

released in the US?i live in asia why i need to care it released in US or not?


Having a montly fee doesn't make said game an MMO.

 

I won't pretend to know the Asian markets for video games, though.

But the sentiment of my point still stands.....Microsoft isn't interested in MMO's for their XBOX 360.   So when Defiance gets a hard date, make sure you pm me.



Persistantthug said:
D-Joe said:
Persistantthug said:
D-Joe said:
Persistantthug said:
D-Joe said:
Persistantthug said:

MMO's don't exist on the XBOX 360 because Microsoft won't allow them.....basically.

 

There are some on the PS3, however.

I hear that GUILD WARS 2 is coming next on the PS3.

are you from 2009?

No...

I'm from 2012.

 

And in 2012 there's still no MMORPG's outside of FF11 and Phantasy Star (which were done because Microsoft was desperate to get and appease the Japanese market).

There's been many devs to claim that their said MMO was planned for XBOX 360....all have been disappointed.

I'll believe it when I see a hard date.

do you know what is MHFO?

Um....

 

Is that actually a MASSIVELY Multiplayer Online Game?

 

That and the fact that it was never released in the US.....well, it pretty much falls in line with what I said earlier.

yes,you need to pay monthly fee for MHFO

 

released in the US?i live in asia why i need to care it released in US or not?


Having a montly fee doesn't make said game an MMO.

 

I won't pretend to know the Asian markets for video games, though.

But the sentiment of my point still stands.....Microsoft isn't interested in MMO's for their XBOX 360.   So when Defiance gets a hard date, make sure you pm me.

after 2 days you reply this to me?MHFO is not a MMO?are you kidding me?are you saying Vindictus/PSO2 is not a MMO either?(all 3's joining/game room style are same)

hard date?yeah why not

and anwser his question

and do you know MS just opened a new studio in few days ago for F2P game?