No current console is.... Why just target the 360?
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| ironmanDX said: No current console is.... Why just target the 360? |
I did wonder why the guy in the interview soled out the 360. Without looking into him, it means either there is missing context from the questions so he was asked about the 360 in a previous question or alternatively it is his perception that the main console is the 360 (is the guy US based?). Either way his point is rather moot as everyone knows the 360 and PS3 can't really compete with a PC anymore. This will be proved even more so as we get to the next gen and start seeing the ramp up in graphics on the PC again.
The PS3 isn't so hot for MMO's either. DCUO never really took off (although it's doing better as F2P) and then... what else is there? FF XIV eventually? I doubt it will do as well as as XI did on the PS2, although you never know.
Tbh I think the MMO bubble is beginning to burst, and I really question the choice to make an Elder Scrolls Online game, but I guess we'll have to see how it turns out. Hopefully it'll innovate a little rather than copying WoW like 90% of the competition.
| Kresnik said: The PS3 isn't so hot for MMO's either. DCUO never really took off (although it's doing better as F2P) and then... what else is there? FF XIV eventually? I doubt it will do as well as as XI did on the PS2, although you never know. Tbh I think the MMO bubble is beginning to burst, and I really question the choice to make an Elder Scrolls Online game, but I guess we'll have to see how it turns out. Hopefully it'll innovate a little rather than copying WoW like 90% of the competition. |
MMOs are doing fine.
The reason is the Sub Model isn't working on consoles and F2P is just getting introduced to most people.
Also MMORPG Developers are greedy and so are Microsoft and Sony,especially with the Sub Fee and maybe other things in the game.
Microsoft and Sony would like to have always a big share of these things...Sony is probably a little bit more friendly cause a lot of MMO(RPG) Devs turned Microsoft down due to their crazy conditions combined with XboxLive.
But all in all both sides are greedy and MMO(RPG) Devs choose the way where they make the most money for themselves > PC or F2P on consoles or have a strong brand name like Final Fantasy or maybe Elders Scrolls.
I know Diablo 3 isn't a MMO(RPG) but its a great example.
You always hear when they talk about Diablo for consoles that they like Sony more or don't even mention the 360 cause Sony is far more open.
Why does Blizzard like this?Their Real Life Money Auction House is their most important thing and they surely would want to bring a version of it to consoles.
They make a big share of the money people make there and Microsoft would probably take far to much money.And yes people get rich from the RMAH - There are enough people who made way over thousands of thousands of $ and Euro and from every of this transaction Blizzard is getting something.
Valve had problems too with Mircrosoft too cause they had crazy conditions for Steam.
Yes Valve hated Sony and wanted Steam at first on Microsoft but they had again their weird imagination everyone loves them and wants to give them their soul.Sony said you can do your thing on our platform and Valve started to love Sony.Hopefully Steam will be a big part of the PS4 Next Gen.
And people who play FPS,RTS and MMOs rather with a Pad than Keyboard+Mouse and even think its better for this Genres...please stay at Call of Duty and don't reproduce.
The last time i puked was when someone telled me Halo Wars is better than Starcraft and a lot more suitable for good or even PROGAMERS.You know those koreans that have crazy APMs and so on.
Or those hardcore precise Counterstrike ProGamers that have a reaction out of this world.
I don't want to puke cause of such nonsense anymore - There are genres that are better with a Gaming Pad but none of them really matters.
FPS,RTS,MMOs you play with Mouse+Keyboard...Beat em Up > Arcade Stick....Racing Games with a Wheel and a Gearshift setup etc.Flight Simulators with a Joystick or a setup for those games.
Console Gamepads probably are only useful for Offline J-RPGs,games like Twisted Metal(Put it in and play games) and Jump n runs.
But nearly every other genre is played with either KB+M or other hardware.
| Kresnik said: FF XIV eventually? I doubt it will do as well as as XI did on the PS2, although you never know. |
I'm reluctantly optimistic about XIV's future on the PS3, Square looks dead set on making it work.
| slowmo said: Either way his point is rather moot as everyone knows the 360 and PS3 can't really compete with a PC anymore. This will be proved even more so as we get to the next gen and start seeing the ramp up in graphics on the PC again. |
I don't want to be captain obvious here but
consoles are not just about graphics but innovative gameplay and atmosphere as well.
when PC games have naughty dog level story telling, wake me up
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
consoles are not just about graphics but innovative gameplay and atmosphere as well. when PC games have naughty dog level story telling, wake me up
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I'm sure there would be some exclusive pc and even some multi-plat titles with depth in the storyline, it's just that console gaming is more popular, therefore more games, including the ones you're referring too get produced.
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
consoles are not just about graphics but innovative gameplay and atmosphere as well. when PC games have naughty dog level story telling, wake me up
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I'm sure there are many PC gamers that think some already do, the single player story experience is different from person to person.
D-Joe said:
are you from 2009?
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No...
I'm from 2012.
And in 2012 there's still no MMORPG's outside of FF11 and Phantasy Star (which were done because Microsoft was desperate to get and appease the Japanese market).
There's been many devs to claim that their said MMO was planned for XBOX 360....all have been disappointed.
I'll believe it when I see a hard date.
| Argh_College said: Games like WoW and LoL look so bad that even Xbox 1 and Ps2 could run those games so its not about hardware, its more about Console Gamers dont giving a sh** about MMos on Consoles since every Pc in the world can run WoW and Lol, sometimes i play Lol and my pc is not that good. Maybe Next Gen Microsoft will do some kind Of MMO for Xbox 8 so people who like can enjoy those games. Xbox 360 is obviously outdated but even with a 7 Year old hardware some teams like Epic, Turn 10, Crytek and 343 can put on the market games with better graphics than 95% of games available on Pc. In Facts i can only name 3/4 games on Pc that look better than Uncharted 3 or Forza 4 or Halo 4. Crysis Series Witcher 2 Battlefield 3 And thats it, multi games sure look better on Pc but even on Pc when compared to Uc3 or Gears 3 they look not even close to those graphical powerhouses. Pc Gaming is good, in fact i love Steam and Mouse and Keyboard for MMOs are still the king but Console Gaming for me has alot of more Feautures i love : - Playing on my Couch with a big badass FULL HD screen. - Still having amazing looking games like Forza 4, GT5, Killzone 3 or Uncharted 3. - Xbox Live wich for me means everything, The reason i own a Xbox, amazing people, amazing friends, amazing online communitie, amazing clan wars ... - Controller, i said Mouse and Keyboard are better for MMOs but for me even FPS i rather play with the Xbox Controller and Fighting and Football Games i love the Dualshock. - Consoles Designs - i love the design of Consoles. - My friends are on XBL, Pc isnt as popular as it was before anymore over here and even WW. - Better Exclusives - Games like God of War, Uncharted, Gears of War, Halo or Forza MotorSport make me buy Consoles and not want to leave them since studios wont stop making these. - Not as many Cheaters, i wont deny that their are cheaters on Consoles... But on Pc is ridiculous, almosy 90% of people who Plays CS or those games cheat, its stupid and lame and thats why i quit Pc Gaming. And this are the main. |
I agree with a lot of what you saïd, except for the whole...only 3 games you know look better on pc.
If you have decent pc hardware and can max settings out, almost any game looks better on PC. True 1080p resolution with loads of AA and 60 frames per second is hard to compete against.
Something like Sonic Generations maxed out on PC looks better than anything on consoles in motion due to butter smoothness AA and 60+ fps provides. and a game like Metro 2033 maxed out absolutely destroys anything consoles...its really not a fair comparison at all.
Persistantthug said:
No... I'm from 2012.
And in 2012 there's still no MMORPG's outside of FF11 and Phantasy Star (which were done because Microsoft was desperate to get and appease the Japanese market). There's been many devs to claim that their said MMO was planned for XBOX 360....all have been disappointed. I'll believe it when I see a hard date. |
do you know what is MHFO?