i agree with ioi and shanbcn. there is not much many care about atm. i don't care about the games in the charts atm amd i don't care if the console lose or gain a few percent from week to week. there was no pricecut to talk about the impact of that, there was really not much the whole year.

it will be interesting to talkk about ps3 super slim and about wii u and yes, also about 360 because it will be interesting how they all will do this holidays and some games will be always interesting then but i see nothing i could really talk about. i could, but i would talk about something i don't care about.

ADJUSTMENTS (NPD & 360 HW shipment)

3DS	-10549
PS3	20126
360	20164
WII	10187
DS	33877
PSP	0
PSV	540

GT5

Sold 12,100 units in this week * up from last week *.

7,709,022 LTD.

659,130 in 2012.

Up from 79th to 62nd.

GT5 on track to beat 2011 sales.

ethomaz said: GT5 Sold 12,100 units in this week * up from last week *. 7,709,022 LTD. 659,130 in 2012. Up from 79th to 62nd. GT5 on track to beat 2011 sales.

Last year GT5 sold near 1.8m, doesnt seem getting close this year.

shanbcn said: Last year GT5 sold near 1.8m, doesnt seem getting close this year.

I think GT5 will sell 1.5m this year without bundles or new editions (XL/Spec II is not released in Europe yet).

everthing is very low at the moment, 3dsxl,mario and DQ in Japan should be an interesting topic for the next couple of weeks

Salnax said: oniyide said:  Speaking of games, its kind of strange to see the 3ds game sales do so poorly yet, the system is selling ok. are people just buying Mario?(Ive had mine for months and yet to buy a 3rd party game myself)   In Japan, 3DS owners are buying Dragon Quest, Mario Kart 7, Super Mario 3D Land, Monster Hunter 3G, Fire Emblem Awakening, Kingdom Hearts 3D, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Resident Evil Revelations, Mario Tennis Open, Harvest Moon, Martio & Sonic at the Olympics, Inazuma Eleven, Theatrhythm, Hatsune Miku, New Love Plus, Etrian Odyssey IV, Rhythm Thief, AND Metal Gear Solid 3. Note how many of those are regional exclusivesat this point. In the USA, 3DS owners are buying Nintendo's four big hardcore titles so far (3D Land, Kart 7, Uprising, and Ocarina), but not much else. Note the absence of more casual titles such as Nintendogs, Mario & Sonic, and Mario Tennis. In Europe, people are buying the Marios, including the one with Sonic, Resident Evil, Uprising, and Nintendogs. Note how this market is more balanced.   My conclusions: People in Japan are buying games, but the American 3DS market is still too niche and hardcore, while the European market is still small. Part of the problem is the platform's lack of non-Japanese games, but it is also hurt by how many games either won't leave Japan or are still being localized. Fortunately, the upcoming release of NSMB2 and the XL worldwide should boost non-Japanese sales. Oh, Japan will see a huge boost too, especially with Brain Age Demon, but they need it less.

I was talking more the US and to a lesser extent Europe, i see that they are buying games in Japan. BUt Metal Gear?? that game looks like a flop to me all around. Most of those games you named have been released in the US and the ones that havent, (MH, FE) have never been that popular in the states anyway, so i dont think that will do much for 3ds in the US. Those casual titles have been released but there not selling like the ones on DS did, Nintendogs is already pass a mil.

I think there a quite a few non japanese games released for 3ds, mario and sonic is fairly recent, lego batman 2 just came out as did Spiderman(which to my surprise is actually good)

Conegamer said: Sigh...I had a really lengthy post here, but it's deleted for whatever reason. Crazy. Anyway, I failed in my calculations. If the PS3 sells, on average, 130k per week until the holidays, it'll sell an extra 2.08mil from now to October 31st, leaving it at 6.88mil with 2 months to go. Selling 500k then 750k, on AVERAGE, it'll hit 11.88mil by the end of the year, not 10-11mil. 11-12mil seems more realistic. And the Slim redesign will boost sales by about 100k, no-one really wanted one. But the pricecut could help, another 500k? But sales drop beforehand anyway (read: 3DS), so the overall increase will be around 450k over other figures. The market is saturated, people want new stuff. The Wii has reached it, the 360 is starting to suffer. The PS3 will hit it soon. And when it does, nothing (new games, price cuts) can save it.

The PS3 is only down 12% YoY for the year. I can't understand how you expect it to be down drastically more than that figure for the second half of the year with the Slim / price cut. At worst, it'll remain stagnant and stay down 12% YoY, which would leave it at approximately 12.5m. That's a worst case scenario. The second half of this year is almost certainly going to have a better YoY than the first half of this year. That should really be obvious.

So... is this really the worst week of the gen?

^^ I think it's pretty darn close, even if you count the 3DS and the PSVita...

And the PS3 is down far more than 13% the past few weeks. I believe it was outselling the figures last year early in the year even! And with the WiiU and other stuff coming out, it'll have a weaker holiday, so less sales, and no price cut or redesign can help that.

The gen is over. Is it saturated. We need a new generation, and that's a fact.