Runa216 said: This thread makes me laugh a little. so much faulty logic!

I couldn't agree more !

Player1x3 said: Runa216 said: This thread makes me laugh a little. so much faulty logic! I couldn't agree more !

yeah, but I'm pretty sure my idea of faulty logic and what you think is faulty logic are very different. 

Runa216 said: Player1x3 said: Runa216 said: This thread makes me laugh a little. so much faulty logic! I couldn't agree more ! yeah, but I'm pretty sure my idea of faulty logic and what you think is faulty logic are very different.

What makes you say that ?

Player1x3 said: Runa216 said: Player1x3 said: Runa216 said: This thread makes me laugh a little. so much faulty logic! I couldn't agree more ! yeah, but I'm pretty sure my idea of faulty logic and what you think is faulty logic are very different.  What makes you say that ?

we always disagree when it comes to religion. 

Runa216 said: Player1x3 said: Runa216 said: Player1x3 said: Runa216 said: This thread makes me laugh a little. so much faulty logic! I couldn't agree more ! yeah, but I'm pretty sure my idea of faulty logic and what you think is faulty logic are very different.  What makes you say that ? we always disagree when it comes to religion.

That doesn't necessarily mean that we have a different idea of faulty logic

This thread is still going on?
I thought you were done with your experiment, Jay?

xD, this seems like one of those silly atheist arguments along the lines of "all religions are wrong because there's so many of them" given your "countless other religions" option in the poll. If you're actually trolling religion in general, then you're doing so much better than average that you deserve applause.
If you're really in this kind of dilemma though, you might as well stay atheist. To properly adhere to most religions, you can't be that close-minded. Especially if you want to continue understanding science and such. Atheism is of course based on this very type of close-mindedness (in that you're "correct" in your assertions about reality) so that would really be perfect for you.

Immortal said: xD, this seems like one of those silly atheist arguments along the lines of "all religions are wrong because there's so many of them" given your "countless other religions" option in the poll. If you're actually trolling religion in general, then you're doing so much better than average that you deserve applause. If you're really in this kind of dilemma though, you might as well stay atheist. To properly adhere to most religions, you can't be that close-minded. Especially if you want to continue understanding science and such. Atheism is of course based on this very type of close-mindedness (in that you're "correct" in your assertions about reality) so that would really be perfect for you.

1.) How is atheism close-minded?

2.) This thread wasnt sincere, no. It was more to demonstrate how impossible it is to discover the religion that praises he actual God. With so many religions and so many different Gods, many of whom demand worship, it is impossible to know which God to worship. No matter which God you choose, you probably won't choose the actual God & you'll probably be punished for it. Check out this video.

Jay520 said: 1.) How is atheism close-minded? 2.) This thread wasnt sincere, no. It was more to demonstrate how impossible it is to discover the religion that praises he actual God. Check out this video.

I have had this argument many, many times with no real result in terms of my understanding the atheist point of view or the other way round, but since you're the first person to not be at all agressive about it, I guess I should try.

Basically, atheism, which I'd define as the belief that religions are "incorrect" (or, more often, that they can't be proven and so on along the lines of the Flying Spaghetti Monster idea) isn't really close-minded in itself. What I think is close-minded is the ideology shared by most/all atheists (which, given your objections, seems to include you) which is empiricism to the extreme (basically, "science FTW") and doesn't allow for any room in terms of thinking philosophically. In fact, most atheists deny philosophy as "existential crap" because it easily equates science and religion as far as "correctness" goes. Science involves at least a few assumptions/axioms that can deal with ideas such as "what if we're all dreaming/in a virtual reality simulator? Anything can happen then and scientific laws mean nothing !" Since we have to say no to that simply because we refuse to believe it, we're using an argument that any religious nutjob could use to justify his argument.

Something tells me I'm doing a horrid job of getting my point across, :O. Basically belief in science = belief in gods/God/ghosts/Flying Spaghetti Monster in terms of correctness. So believing only in science and actively disbelieving (not sure if that's a word) in others is close-minded and just a little hypocritical. If you're an atheist who doesn't really believe in science either, then I've got nothing, really, so that's why atheism as a whole isn't anything I could argue against.

Oh, and that video just seems to not properly understand the idea of most religions. There's tons of responses to that argument, but, I mean, haven't you seen all those religious liberals these days? Lots of people nowdays are quite fine with other people having different religions and don't think that they're going to hell. Quite possibly, all those paths are going in the right direction.