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What year will the PS4 release?

2013 33 37.08%
 
2014 47 52.81%
 
2015 4 4.49%
 
Later 5 5.62%
 
Total:89
superchunk said:
2013


Take a look at the Poll, Superchunk. Are you shitting yourself, yet?

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Late 2013 is what I believe and what I hope.



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BHR-3 said:
ps3 released 2yrs after ps2 slim so...

im gonna say no earlier than late 2014


Very good point. You'd foolish to disagree with this guy. Unless you want a re-run of Uncharted 2 '09.

Jay520 said:
superchunk said:
2013


Take a look at the Poll, Superchunk. Are you shitting yourself, yet?

Why because a bunch of people on a forum are crazy and ignore blatant signs?



Jay520 said:
Slimebeast said:
Nov 2013 together with X720. They don't want to wait. Sony lost so many $ billions by being one year later than Microsoft.

If I remember correctly Sony themselves projected 12 million PS3s shipment in the current Fiscal year so the sales are definitely decreasing. Next year could be down at 9 million shipped.

This new slim will still be produced for a good number of years since it'll sell along with the PS4 a few years into next gen.



It is my understanding that Sony lost $ billions because the PS3 was expensive to manufacture. Not because of the late release. Had they launched in 2005, the ps3 would have been even more expensive and they probably would have lost even more monies.

Yes, because Sony thought they were the masters of the universe and thought people would actually pay $600 and they'd still dominate. That plan failed after a few months of horrible sales. After that they have been desperately trying to undercut Microsoft by

Now ask yourself. How can Microsoft ask a $100 premium for its console? If I can get a PS3 with a 250GB for $229 I shouldnt have to pay $299 for a 250GB X360. It should cost $199 because Xbox was the underdog, has no Blu-ray, has no free-online and has fewer xclusives. And yet they can over-charge because they secured the online echo-system with core gamers earlier.

The main X360 SKU has cost $299 for 4 years now (it went from $349 to $299 in Summer 2008). That's a $0 drop.

In the same time PS3 went from $399 to $249 and soon down to $229. That's a $170 drop and loss of revenue.

 



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I think that both the ps4 and x720 should release before holiday 2013, but we have heard nothing from sony or ms. I feel like a 2013 e3 reveal would be too late for a holiday 2013 release. And sony has stated that they don't wanna be late to the party. I also feel that holiday 2014 is too late.

So i'm gonna say late2013/early2014



M.U.G.E.N said:
Slimebeast said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Come on now my man real slim shady....they didn't lose 'billions' cuz they launched 'late'

lol.. slim shady

I think they did. Microsoft is absolutely pumping money out of the X360. The profit difference between X360 and PS3 is several $ billion already (I think X360 is about break even or slightly profitable while PS3 is minus $4 billion or in that ballpark, it can't all be due to Bluray?) and the biggest reason is because X360 could build up that crucial online echosystem by launching first.  It's not like the X360 is the superior product lol, I think we can both agree on that.

You have seen all through the generation how MS have afforded to have the X360 overpriced while Sony has been forced to hunt and sell the PS3 for cheap.

I honestly don't think that due to launching late tho...they lost so much money because they launching with a more expensive product but then had to sell it for a big loss. It cost them dearly. not saying the late launch didn't affect the situation...just that I don't think it's the biggest reason. The big hurdle for them against the xbox next gen is, at least as I see it, is NA. Even if they launch a few months later, as long as the price is good, they will take a huge lead in Europe and Asia in no time. I sure hope Polypony is hard at work on the next GT, will be very useful to have one announced at least at launch (even if the game comes to the market a year later)

Yeah perhaps the one year delayed release wasn't the biggest reason for losing so much money but it's still a big reason. I tried to translate it into a palpable sum of money lol.

We know for a fact that the difference in profits between PS3 and X360 is over $5 billion. It's not unreasonable to argue that a big chunk of that difference was due the 1 year delayed launch of the PS3.

Honestly I feel that if PS4 launches say in Fall 2014 they won't beat the Xbox 720. While if they launch simultaneously PS4 will clearly win. (now just talking marketshare which obviously isn't the same as profits, but still they depend significantly on each other)



Slimebeast said:
Jay520 said:
Slimebeast said:
Nov 2013 together with X720. They don't want to wait. Sony lost so many $ billions by being one year later than Microsoft.

If I remember correctly Sony themselves projected 12 million PS3s shipment in the current Fiscal year so the sales are definitely decreasing. Next year could be down at 9 million shipped.

This new slim will still be produced for a good number of years since it'll sell along with the PS4 a few years into next gen.



It is my understanding that Sony lost $ billions because the PS3 was expensive to manufacture. Not because of the late release. Had they launched in 2005, the ps3 would have been even more expensive and they probably would have lost even more monies.

Yes, because Sony thought they were the masters of the universe and thought people would actually pay $600 and they'd still dominate. That plan failed after a few months of horrible sales. After that they have been desperately trying to undercut Microsoft by

Now ask yourself. How can Microsoft ask a $100 premium for its console? If I can get a PS3 with a 250GB for $229 I shouldnt have to pay $299 for a 250GB X360. It should cost $199 because Xbox was the underdog, has no Blu-ray, has no free-online and has fewer xclusives. And yet they can over-charge because they secured the online echo-system with core gamers earlier.

The main X360 SKU has cost $299 for 4 years now (it went from $349 to $299 in Summer 2008). That's a $0 drop.

In the same time PS3 went from $399 to $249 and soon down to $229. That's a $170 drop and loss of revenue.

 



You've misunderstood me. It wasn't the lack of sales that made Sony lose so much money. It was the fact that every time they sold a console, they lost hundreds of dollars. A Ps3 cost a few hundred dollars more than $600 if I remember correctly.

superchunk said:
Jay520 said:
superchunk said:
2013


Take a look at the Poll, Superchunk. Are you shitting yourself, yet?

Why because a bunch of people on a forum are crazy and ignore blatant signs?



oooohh feisty...

....a sign that you're currently shitting yourself.

Jay520 said:
superchunk said:
2013


Take a look at the Poll, Superchunk. Are you shitting yourself, yet?

lol, post of the day.

We're many who would laugh so hard at poor superchunk if his console launch predictions went wrong. (cause he's been so cocky about them. We all love you though 'chunk!).