Badassbab said:
Slimebeast said:
I understand it's terrifying. I don't think it will destroy our paradise though because this earth certainly is no paradise.
Threat and threat. Theoretical thrat like a cold war threat. Obviously the nukes help USA and Russia to control the world to some extent. But the more likely a real actual use of those nukes by a nation is, the stronger the threat naturally is. I can't imagine a scenario where USA or Russia would use nukes, but I can easily imagine scenarios where rogue states would use nukes or spread them to terrorists in the form of dirty bombs.
The threats against Iran are mild than vice versa:
"All options are on the table. If Iran disagrees to inspections we might do a surgical strike against theur nuclear facilites"
compared to
"Israel with the help of its lapdog USA is the Satan of the world and should be wiped off the face of the earth, and inshallah, we will witness that day".
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You've been truly hook, lined and sinkered. You've just made those quotes up. At least attribute them to yourself.
During the Cold War there were numerous incidents between the US and the USSR that could have triggered a third world war. This is basic historical fact. And I mean seriously you can't imagine a scenario were the US and Russia could nuke each other? Really?! Do you know anything about history, do you even watch any news?
Most of the threat is towards Iran. Like massive threat. Picture this. The US has sent FOUR aircraft carriers to the Persian Gulf. FOUR!!! A squadron of F-22 has been sent to the UAE airfield. In addition to this Israel has also threatened Iran using it's airforce and submarine force. Germany has sold Israel at a massive subsidised rate state of the art submarines that can launch cruise missiles or even nukes. The US is selling tens of billions worth of offensive weaponary to the Gulf countries and Israel. Of course Israel's is subsidised while the Gulf States are recycling petro dollars into the US arms industry (and getting inferior weapons compared to Israel).
Now let's look at the Iranian 'threat'. The lowest defense spending in the region at less than 2% of GDP. Compare that to Saudi Arabia at 10% or Israel at 7%. Iran's military is a decade or two behind other countires in the region. Under sanctions and pressure from the US to other countries not to sell it weapons, Iran has had to rely on it's local defense industry as of late. It's posture is purely defensive and retaliatory. It's surrounded by nuclear states and right across the Persian Gulf sits the US Fifth Fleet.
Iran's already been attacked. It's scientists have been taken out, it's been subjected to major cyber warfare and it's Central bank has been penalised.
This whole argument that if it's Mullahs were cornered and would launch nukes could apply to any country. If Russia had the US cornered, the US may well decide to go nuclear expect Russia would never be able to corner the US as the US would've gone nuke at the veryu beginning should they have tried anything.
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No, I can't imagine Russian or American nuclear attacks in the coming 50 years. That's unrealistic.
Those 4 USA carriers in the region is a demonstration of power because Iran has threatened to close the Hermuz.
The only reason there's a threat against Iran is because Iran wants to aquire nukes when they have no right to do so.
Russia will not be cornered, USA will not be cornered. That's ridiculous. But third world autocratic states can be cornerered.
We saw in a real life scenario how a dictator was cornered, Khadaffi last year. That will next happen with Assad in Syria and it could very well happen with Iranian leaders in the coming decade or two. Like kasz said, why not go down to history forever and launch a nuke against the zionists if you know you're going down anyway?
