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Johann on 07 July 2012
haxxiy said:
The first book draws a lot from shakesperean clichés and makes use of some plot devices that make no sense at all once properly analised. However, it is still far above your average fantasy title. The characters are probably some of the best in the genre.

The second and the third books are the best in the series, specially the Westerosi part, since the Essos storyline drags a lot and makes use of more senseless stuff. A Storm of Swords is hailed as an excellent book, the best of the series, due to it's daring plot twists and overall sense of grandiose.

A Feast for Crows and a Dance with Dragons aren't quite in par with the previous two books but are still as good as the first one. It's main flaw lies on the needless points of view and threads of the story that go nowhere.

Compared to the other juggernauts in the fantasy genre, ASOIAF certainly stacks up as one of the best. It's plot and characters are better than Malazan's, though the world is less original, and certainly stands far above Wheel of Time and, may this series rot in hell, Sword of Truth. You'll spend a lot of time speculating about the future of the story and your favorite characters.

Anyways besides the minor flaws over the series - every book has these but I felt the need to comment them nevertheless - ASOIAF holds possibly the worst fanbase ever. Think LOTR levels of fanatism up to eleven mixed with clueless, enthusiast gamers who think they know everything about the world and violence and things dark and edgy is where the stuff's at.

About the bolded: If I were to judge things based on their fanbase, I wouldn't enjoy a single FF game.



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Attoyou on 07 July 2012

If you enjoy the books, Try the Malazan series and The Name of the Wind next.



Atto Suggests...:

Book - Malazan Book of the Fallen series 

Game - Metro Last Light

TV - Deadwood

Music - Forest Swords 

Faxanadu on 07 July 2012
Attoyou said:
If you enjoy the books, Try the Malazan series and The Name of the Wind next.


The Name of the Wind is annoying with an annoying brat as the main character. The Way of Kings is much more enjoyable.



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Attoyou on 07 July 2012
Faxanadu said:
Attoyou said:
If you enjoy the books, Try the Malazan series and The Name of the Wind next.


The Name of the Wind is annoying with an annoying brat as the main character. The Way of Kings is much more enjoyable.



Atto Suggests...:

Book - Malazan Book of the Fallen series 

Game - Metro Last Light

TV - Deadwood

Music - Forest Swords 

haxxiy on 07 July 2012
Johann said:
haxxiy said:

About the bolded: If I were to judge things based on their fanbase, I wouldn't enjoy a single FF game.

Não estou falando de um pessoal normal que discute num site de entretenimento geral, se entusiasma com novidades, aceita todos os lançamentos e tudo o mais. Tente postar alguma coisa no Westeros que ofenda a santidade do GRRM e prepare para ser crucificado muito mais do que você jamais seria se, por exemplo, achasse todos os FFs desde VI uma porcaria. Além disso, eu não impliquei que os livros são ruins por causa da fanbase, apenas que, diferente de um game, há muito mais para discutir em teorias etc., ou não, já que os caras do Westeros, entre outros sites bem hardcore, são insuportáveis, e isso acaba sendo uma mácula na experiência do todo.



 

 

 

 

 

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haxxiy on 07 July 2012
Faxanadu said:
Attoyou said:
If you enjoy the books, Try the Malazan series and The Name of the Wind next.


The Name of the Wind is annoying with an annoying brat as the main character. The Way of Kings is much more enjoyable.


WoK was pretty awesome, although it dragged a lot and suffered from the immaculate, caste characters syndrome and black and white morality. It's way better than anything Patrick Rothfuss will ever deliver.



 

 

 

 

 

Faxanadu on 07 July 2012
Attoyou said:
Faxanadu said:
Attoyou said:
If you enjoy the books, Try the Malazan series and The Name of the Wind next.


The Name of the Wind is annoying with an annoying brat as the main character. The Way of Kings is much more enjoyable.

So you like to beat women?

OT: The truth hurts, doesnt it?



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Faxanadu on 07 July 2012
haxxiy said:
Faxanadu said:
Attoyou said:
If you enjoy the books, Try the Malazan series and The Name of the Wind next.


The Name of the Wind is annoying with an annoying brat as the main character. The Way of Kings is much more enjoyable.


WoK was pretty awesome, although it dragged a lot and suffered from the immaculate, caste characters syndrome and black and white morality. It's way better than anything Patrick Rothfuss will ever deliver.

I didnt mind that, as I found the setting to be really unique and imaginative.



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Attoyou on 07 July 2012
Faxanadu said:
Attoyou said:
Faxanadu said:
Attoyou said:
If you enjoy the books, Try the Malazan series and The Name of the Wind next.


The Name of the Wind is annoying with an annoying brat as the main character. The Way of Kings is much more enjoyable.

So you like to beat women?

OT: The truth hurts, doesnt it?

I have not read WoK yet lol. Just picked it up a couple days ago, Looking forward to it.



Atto Suggests...:

Book - Malazan Book of the Fallen series 

Game - Metro Last Light

TV - Deadwood

Music - Forest Swords 

c03n3nj0 on 07 July 2012

The books are great! Read them!

Although they are all a very long read. There's a lot of detail (a lot not so important) so they each take longer than some other books. Book 3 is almost 1,000 pages long.

The books are so much more about the world than the show is. There's a lot more detail and history that is lost as it goes into a different media. You can't just stop in the middle of a show to describe events that happened 300 years prior, unless it ties directly with the main plot(s).

Anyhow, I'm at book 3 so far, and I was so PISSED. The good pissed you get when you are engrossed into the story and something happens that you didn't want to. It happens A LOT with a song of Ice and Fire.



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